loft conversion

allnighta · 25 Nov 2009

first of a big hello to eveyone and thanxs in advance for any help

basically i moved into a cul de sac shaped court and moved into the corner house and as you imagine not all the rooms are square and worse my oldest daughters bedroom is tiny. now she has asked if the loft conversion is possible and basically i want to know from the pics i have taken is it possible to remove many of the beams, the loft is not massive itself but a lot better for her

as you can see the i have beams running diagonally from the slopes of the roof down to the floor joists and 5 verticals all together in the center of the roof which are made up of a few 3x1 pined together

any advice thanxs or further photos needed no problem

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Deluks · 25 Nov 2009

Should be easy enough, have a look at the previous thread here in building for some pics of what might need to be done. £15 to £25k depending on spec/requirements.

allnighta · 25 Nov 2009

thanks for the reply deluks m8

so what ive been reading am i right in thinking i have a Purlins and Rafters Roof (pre-1965)

also ive highlited the beams on this photo ,would i be right in thinkin if i remove the ones marked black and leave the ones marked red and possibly ad more vertical support were the red beams are situated and possibly use the wood i have cut away to add cross members to the existing sloping roof beams to add more stabilty it should be ok

thanxs again

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Deluks · 25 Nov 2009

Firstly: I don't advice you to take anything out at all! Potentially dangerous and you could ruin a perfectly good roof.

You appear to have a king post truss, which either means that there is a supporting wall under each of the central posts, or that they are sitting on a sturdy enough joist that can take the weight without deflection.

Get it checked over by a loft conversion company for advice on your options. Actually get two or three in to have a look so you can spot any obvious cowboys.
If you are fairly handy and want to have a go yourself then some offer a 'basic shell' service for the important structural bits, then you can finish the rest of in your own time.

Out of interest, how old is the property?

allnighta · 25 Nov 2009

at a guess m8 i would say they are 30-40 years old

the main vertical beams are sittin on a woodem framed wall not solid brick

i have on solid breeze block wall downstairs between sitting room and kitchen but none solid upstairs

what type of cost do the experts charge just to come out and give me the go ahead

thanxs again m8

freddiemercurystwin · 25 Nov 2009

allnighta said:
at a guess m8 i would say they are 30-40 years old

the main vertical beams are sittin on a woodem framed wall not solid brick

i have on solid breeze block wall downstairs between sitting room and kitchen but none solid upstairs

what type of cost do the experts charge just to come out and give me the go ahead

thanxs again m8

You will need to appoint a structural engineer who will charge around £300-600 to provide you with some sketches and calcs that will be suitable for a building regs application. TBH (and no offence meant) it doesn't sound like you know much about the process, you would be wise to read up on the building regs you will need to comply with before you go much further. Start here: http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/en...s/workcommonloftconversion/workmorebrloftcon/

allnighta · 25 Nov 2009

no offence taking lol thanxs for the help

Shytalkz · 26 Nov 2009

You've got a kingpost gang-nail trussed roof, with some loose infill for some reason.

To be honest, the headroom looks minimal and, by the time you've got additional depth joists, plus rafter insulation, battens etc, you'll have even less. Looks to me like there's very little in the way of any of it being full height.

All in all, doesn't look like a project that is worth doing, tbh.

allnighta · 26 Nov 2009

your right in when you say theres not loads but being a family of short asses lol and honest the duaghter has a singled bed and desk and a set of draws in her room and thats it you cant swing a cat

so if the loft was done its would mean more space for her and she can then use both , even if her single bed ,tv and computer were upsatirs she could then use her existing rom for a wadrobe and mirror for getting dressed and stuff

ive got enught 18" chipoard to board the whole floor and even the walls if i had to which i wont

ive even got enough bits to run a ring main up there and a radiator up there its just when it comes to removing beams and stuff i best go get help lol

going to phone about to day to see how much it will cost to get someone to view i and see what they say

thanxs again for ya help lads

freddiemercurystwin · 26 Nov 2009

As ever with low ceiling loft conversions the first thing to establish is whether you can get a compliant stair in, you'll also need a door at the top or the bottom of the stairs and a minimum of 1900mm headroom above the pitchline in the centre of the stair. Suprisingly there is no minimum ceiling height under building regs apart from over staircases. Best to have a read through http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/Pp...gportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADK_1998.pdf diagram 3, width can be a low as 600mm and comply with table 1 'private stair'.

Deluks · 26 Nov 2009

Maybe you could just use her existing room as the official bedroom where she actually sleeps at night, and just do a 'posh loft' for her desk and clothes storage. She won't be able to have all her mates in there though. If you do go down this route then at least a) don't take anything out of the roof structure willy nilly b) do strengthen the floor joists.

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