question about networking

djclewes · 12 Feb 2011

Hi im going to be starting a project soon where i want to wire 24 cat5e sockets up to 20 computers and i was wondering three things.

1) what cable is best

2) what wall socket is best cat5e ?

3) do you need a patch panel then a hub or can you just wire them straight into a hub.

EFCLee1 · 12 Feb 2011

Seems very odd that someone asking these questions is going to undertake such a task

1) What cable is best

CAT5E or any other newer version of CAT5E will suffice

2) what wall socket is best cat5e ?

RJ45 wall sockets

3) do you need a patch panel then a hub or can you just wire them straight into a hub.

All wall sockets would feed back to a patch panel, then another network cable would connect the patch panel to the switch

djclewes · 12 Feb 2011

so you cant just plug them straight into the hub then

Igorian · 12 Feb 2011

Well, you could, but you would need to terminate the ends.

Maybe you could describe the project. Is it for you, someone else, lots of rooms or just a test setup on a bench?

djclewes · 12 Feb 2011

no its were setting up a community radio station and it as computer courses as well so your looking at aroom with around 15 computers and the other room with around 5 or 6 computers in.

Igorian · 12 Feb 2011

As, per one of the previous posts, a patch panel would be better. Once wired, the cables between the sockets and panel never move (If, all done nicely

), so will not suffer from any stress and less likely to be tampered with by the Community Minors

. It looks neater too.

Then use patch leads from the panel to the switch as required. If you have a router, you can connect it directly to the switch to provide Internet/Network services.

What will the computers connect to, apart from each other? (Internet, server etc)

djclewes · 13 Feb 2011

do you need a switch and a router or can you just plug the row of patch panels in the server cabinet wire up to the hub then the hub wires up to the modem. is that how it goes or do you need the patch panels the switch the hub then the modem

Igorian · 13 Feb 2011

For the purposes of this discussion, hub and switch are the same thing.

All the sockets will wired to the patch panel.

Each (live) port on the patch panel is connected a port on the hub/switch using patch cables.

What make of modem do you have?

djclewes · 13 Feb 2011

d link is what ill prob get and thank you for ya help so far. if you do networking for a living give me a quote for scotland

gbrown100 · 13 Feb 2011

I would go somewhere like an electrical outlet. Get yourself a punch down tool, a few patch panels, patch leads and cat5 sockets and a drum of CAT5 cable. A couple of things you need to know:

1. There are A and B type panels / sockets. Be sure that you get the same type at both ends and patch them accordingly if they do both (A & B have some of the coloured cables swapped)
2. Keep the twists in the cat5 cable for as long as you can - straightening the cable can increase crosstalk (interference).
3. The reason for going into a patch panel is that the CAT5 cable you run round the walls is not designed for moving around and can break. Patch panels are very flexible so are used to being plugged / unplugged.
4. DOn;t run near power cables, where you have to cross them do at right angles.

Good luck

Monkeh · 13 Feb 2011

djclewes said:
d link is what ill prob get

Don't. They're cheap, unreliable crap.

djclewes · 13 Feb 2011

so here is what i got. i got cat 6 wall sockets cat 6 patch panel and cat 6 cable is this everything i need to wire the sockets up. i dont need a special hub do i like cat 6 ect. what hub do you recommend is it dell, netgear hp etc

Synapse · 14 Feb 2011

djclewes said:
so here is what i got. i got cat 6 wall sockets cat 6 patch panel and cat 6 cable is this everything i need to wire the sockets up.

You'll need patch cables to connect the patch panel to the switch.

i dont need a special hub do i like cat 6 ect.

No you don't need anything special to work with CAT6, it's just made to a higher specification than CAT5e.

what hub do you recommend is it dell, netgear hp etc

Given the size of the installation I would probably go for Netgear, but that's my personal preference.

Igorian · 14 Feb 2011

djclewes said:
so here is what i got. i got cat 6 wall sockets cat 6 patch panel and cat 6 cable is this everything i need to wire the sockets up. i dont need a special hub do i like cat 6 ect. what hub do you recommend is it dell, netgear hp etc

You probably didn't need to go Cat6, but no problems. If you actually want guaranteed Cat6 performance across the network, eveything from the sockets to the equipment connected to the network will need to satisfy the Cat6 specification.

Depending of what type of socket and patch panel you have, you might also require a punchdown tool. Also, cutters and cable stripper would be handy. A simple tester would be good to check your wiring.

There's some videos (Example) on youtube which will demonstrate how to punch the jacks. The same would apply at the panel, but, as previously stated, they must be wired to the same standard.

djclewes · 14 Feb 2011

do you just plug the modem into the hub

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