Replacing an Oil Burner

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My old boiler has started leaking and I shall have to replace it. The old boiler exhausted into a lined chimney that originaly was for the coal fired heating. The plumber is saying he is not sure if I can still use this chimney with new boilers. If I dont its going to cause lots of problems as the chimney breast covers all of the area a balanced flue would ned to be fitted
Can anyone recomend a good efficent oil boiler Floor standing and about 25Kw. I wont say money dont matter but I am preapared to spend now to save later.
Also how good is an heat pump?

many thanks Ken
 
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Whatever new boiler you choose, the old lining will have to be removed and a new one inserted.

Heat Pumps are not the answer to everything. They will only work well with a circulation temperature of 45C or below, so work excellently with underfloor heating.

If you have radiators, and your house is poorly insulated, the story is not so good.

If your 'plumber' doesn't know about oil boiler flues then perhaps you need to find someone that does, there are plenty of us out there. Assuming you do not want to pay for him to learn on your house. :p
 
kerabo said:
My old boiler has started leaking and I shall have to replace it. The old boiler exhausted into a lined chimney that originaly was for the coal fired heating. The plumber is saying he is not sure if I can still use this chimney with new boilers. If I dont its going to cause lots of problems as the chimney breast covers all of the area a balanced flue would ned to be fitted
Can anyone recomend a good efficent oil boiler Floor standing and about 25Kw. I wont say money dont matter but I am preapared to spend now to save later.
Also how good is an heat pump?

many thanks Ken
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Heat pump no good for your jobby. Oil boilers, try Grant, Firebird, if its a combi, dont get a worcester, cos theyre carp. As said if your Plumber dosent about the Flue,ask for opinions.
 
LOok at the "Grant" boilers website.

They make a Red system flue which is balanced flue or an Orange system which is conventional flue.

The best oil fired boilers availlable at the moment. ( Opinion based on the fact that I install and maintain them for a living).

Avoid WB and F B.
 
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Totally agree with Terry's post above Grant produce a vast range of "get out of trouble" flue kits for their boilers and the boilers are as got as a boiler can get both in servicabillity and performance (Efficiency)

www.grantuk.com ;)
 
I put them in for a living too, and I don't think there's much to choose between a Worcester and a Grant.

They just have a different set of problems. Worcesters are a git to work on in almost every respect, but the warranty is 5 years (which is at least 2yrs longer than Grant) and they are quieter.

Grant are easier to install and service, but have had condense leakage issues around the flue spigot, have shorter warranties and are noisier.

Worcester use their own staff, Grant use a mixture of direct employed staff and subbies for warranty work.

I suggest either would be a good call.
 
Nothing wrong with us Grant Service Agents we do know the product and recieve regular factory training ! and a 5 year warranty option at small cost is avialible and believe me the worcester is a pig to work on - given that the boiler will be in use for 15 -20 years the hidden cost of difficult repairs could really mount up! ;)
 
Certainly prefer Grant to Worcester, but whatever you choose, make sure the relevant flue kit is installed, even if it does seem expensive.
 
Wouldn't install Grant, we've had about 6 leakers. Also wouldn't fit anything WB gas or oil.

Firebird on the other hand make great condensing oil boilers & their guys are 1st class on technical matters.
 
Terrywookfit said:
RichieHoneybucket said:
Wouldn't install Grant, we've had about 6 leakers. Also wouldn't fit anything WB gas or oil.

Firebird on the other hand make great condensing oil boilers & their guys are 1st class on technical matters.
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TOTAL BLX You must be a TROLL
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Nope, been installing oil central heating for over 35 years. When I started my apprenticeship, we were fitting Wilson Wallflames and you could get a complete system of 7 radiators, boiler, cylinder & oil tank etc installed for £680.
 
RichieHoneybucket said:
Terrywookfit said:
RichieHoneybucket said:
Wouldn't install Grant, we've had about 6 leakers. Also wouldn't fit anything WB gas or oil.

Firebird on the other hand make great condensing oil boilers & their guys are 1st class on technical matters.
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TOTAL BLX You must be a TROLL
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Nope, been installing oil central heating for over 35 years. When I started my apprenticeship, we were fitting Wilson Wallflames and you could get a complete system of 7 radiators, boiler, cylinder & oil tank etc installed for £680.
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I was doing BSA Hotspur,Danesmoor Centrajet. Ahh good old times.We had a company round here called Pakheat........they were sh1te :LOL:
 
still servicing trianco redfyres round here. and will still probably last longer than a new wb oil boiler. grant is probably the best option at the moment. and tust me iv had better experience with grants service agents more than i have the wb in house ones.
 
Each Oil boiler has good oints & bad points MY personal favourite IS Grant, yes they can leak, but at least they are easy to work on, Just a quick question Why not put the boiler outside then there is NO flue issues?
& YES I remember the Harcol 430, & service a potterton today circa 1965!!!!
 
One I repair occasionaly is an old coke boiler conversion.
It has a 12" CI flue pipe into a brick stack. No internal baffle stack and runs with a FGT of about 300+.
Original burner when converted was an XL2. (Blast tube about a foot long, Continuous spark with transformer the size of a small suitcase.
Free standing on its own adjustable leg.
It got a new burner(Nuway C1) when tranny went titsup.

Despite my attempts for 25 years to convince them that a new one would pay for itself rapidly they refuse to listen.

Old lady lives alone in house with 20 x 20 rooms with 12 foot ceilngs.

She tells me it uses a lot of oil! :rolleyes:
 
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