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NANOOOO · 13 May 2011

HOMLESLAW: Guess what we're changed again.

Gonna run in 25mm SWA

This will allow us to do pretty much everything we want

Plus the benefit of the MRS being happy with her sun bed with the addition of a bathroom now

(What i do for an easy life and a happy wife)

Saniflow/Power shower now added to the spec as well as hand basin and toilet.

holmslaw · 13 May 2011

NANOOOO · 13 May 2011

holmslaw said:
Yea, I thought all along this was going to be accommodation.

In all honesty it all started with what we had there previously.

2.5 2L Pyro (FED 1light and 1socket) Was installed from a family friend electrician 20+ years ago to the old shed.

With the new SUPERSIZED structure up and thinking maybe just keep the 1 light and 1 socket (And me making of the pyro yesterday without my tools except side cutters, grips, olive oil, couple of screw drivers, pliers) We've then decided low voltage lighting, a partition here and there and now we're nearly turned it in a lil ANNEX

But holmslaw can i ask, Shall i run the 3 electric radiators as radials and if so what size cable; I was thinking 2.5mm (or could i just run it in a ring?)

Saniflow will be a radial 2.5
Undersink Water heater radial 2.5

Power shower 6mm

ban-all-sheds · 13 May 2011

NANOOOO said:
Ive constructed an oversized shed and now running in power.

So, when you apply for Building Regulations approval, what do you plan to say will be the way you'll comply with P1?

Note - whilst some notifiable work can be swept under the carpet, it would be utter lunacy to think you'll be able to get away without approval for this, and quite possibly planning permission as well.

NANOOOO · 13 May 2011

ban-all-sheds said:
NANOOOO said:

Ive constructed an oversized shed and now running in power.

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So, when you apply for Building Regulations approval, what do you plan to say will be the way you'll comply with P1?

Note - whilst some notifiable work can be swept under the carpet, it would be utter lunacy to think you'll be able to get away without approval for this, and quite possibly planning permission as well.

The size would not be an issue with planning cos its under the regulated height and can be referred to as a shed. What is contained inside might be questioned.

But im not on here asking for planning/building regulation advice but thank you for the heads up.

Im just asking a few questions which have crossed my mind since last time i got on the tools

riveralt · 13 May 2011

NANOOOO said:
The size would not be an issue with planning cos its under the regulated height and can be referred to as a shed.

Not when its got a bathroom its not - you will need full plans submitted.

What is contained inside might be questioned.

What you're proposing to do inside is illegal.

But im not on here asking for planning/building regulation advice but thank you for the heads up.

Sounds to me its more like you keeping the head down and hoping things don't go pearshaped.

Im just asking a few questions which have crossed my mind since last time i got on the tools

Perhaps they should have crossed your mind before you started your, much amended, project.

ban-all-sheds · 13 May 2011

NANOOOO said:
What is contained inside might be questioned.

Planning is definitely not one of those areas where it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

NANOOOO · 13 May 2011

What is contained inside might be questioned.

What you're proposing to do inside is illegal.

Do you understand planning law, Cos if you did your statement would have no reference.

YOU DO NOT "LEGALLY" HAVE TO HAVE PLANNING PERMISSION BEFORE STARTING ANY CONSTRUCTION - FACT!

But after construction, If you submit plans/drawing adn they deem they are not acceptable - you may be asked to demolish the building unless it falls under permitted development!

flameport · 13 May 2011

NANOOOO said:
The size would not be an issue with planning cos its under the regulated height and can be referred to as a shed.

What it is referred to is irrelevant.

The height is one consideration, however the floor area and volume of the building is also relevant, so unless this shed is tiny (clearly is is not), then it will not fall under permitted development and therefore will require planning permission.

NANOOOO · 13 May 2011

flameport said:
NANOOOO said:

The size would not be an issue with planning cos its under the regulated height and can be referred to as a shed.

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What it is referred to is irrelevant.

The height is one consideration, however the floor area and volume of the building is also relevant, so unless this shed is tiny (clearly is is not), then it will not fall under permitted development and therefore will require planning permission.

My point is PLANNING DOES NOT need to be applied for first - FACT!

im not here to argue - just asking for a few tips to questions ive put up

Thanks

bernardgreen · 13 May 2011

NANOOOO said:
YOU DO NOT "LEGALLY" HAVE TO HAVE PLANNING PERMISSION BEFORE STARTING ANY CONSTRUCTION - FACT!

The fact is you can foolishly start construction without planning permission.

NANOOOO said:
But after construction, If you submit plans/drawing adn they deem they are not acceptable - you may be asked to demolish the building unless it falls under permitted development!

You do not have to submit plans for the construction to be deemed not acceptable. As soon as the planning department become aware of the work they can take action against you. FACT

You can ask for retrospective permission and maybe it will be granted. But by ignoring the planning department you will have made enemies of the officers and then they may advise the council members to vote against you. Neighbours and other interested parties may lodge valid objections.

Not every building has "permitted development" as given right.

NANOOOO · 13 May 2011

bernardgreen said:
NANOOOO said:

YOU DO NOT "LEGALLY" HAVE TO HAVE PLANNING PERMISSION BEFORE STARTING ANY CONSTRUCTION - FACT!

Click to expand...

The fact is you can foolishly start construction without planning permission.

NANOOOO said:

But after construction, If you submit plans/drawing adn they deem they are not acceptable - you may be asked to demolish the building unless it falls under permitted development!

Click to expand...

You do not have to submit plans for the construction to be deemed not acceptable. As soon as the planning department become aware of the work they can take action against you. FACT

You can ask for retrospective permission and maybe it will be granted. But by ignoring the planning department you will have made enemies of the officers and then they may advise the council members to vote against you. Neighbours and other interested parties may lodge valid objections.

Not every building has "permitted development" as given right.

Everyones entitled to there opinion.
Thanks

Back to the questions I have lodged!

riveralt · 13 May 2011

NANOOOO said:
Everyones entitled to there opinion.
Thanks

Indeed and when its given in good faith - then chewed up and spat back - it makes it very difficult to consider why you need help at all. You seem to already have the answers to every point that's raised so why should we bother.

NANOOOO said:
Back to the questions I have lodged!

Back to the questions already lodged...

So are you also going to apply for retrospective building control notice?
Who is going to sign your EIC?

NANOOOO · 13 May 2011

Thanks for everyones help.

ban-all-sheds · 13 May 2011

I'm glad you're satisfied.

Now go away.

[EDIT]Typo corrected[/EDIT]

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