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Right so to cut a long story short, new boiler - was warned that it was 'B' grade, so there not allowed to install after April 2011, but as it was partly done, they'll be able to write a letter to gas safe and all will be OK.

It's a Glowworm Betacom 30kw SEDBUK B combi range.

So work went ahead, boiler moved to a new location. And now I'm being told that he can't get it gas safe registered...

Stumped. Any thoughts? is this guy taking the mick? I feel slightly duped now, as he got the work on the fact it'll be notified and signed off - so that I won't have any hassle selling...
 
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I have, they mentioned that he shouldn't have fitted it if it didn't mean the current building regs.

I'm not sure how to find out if my boiler meets these regulations, but the plumber did say that it wouldn't pass, despite it being a "good'n".

He did mentioned some self certified way, or something. I don't know, I'm lost. All I know is I've a new boiler that's been installed, and no sign off...
 
is the plumber actually Gas Safe registered himself? As a plumber who installs a boiler who is not gas safe means the boiler is not covered under warranty.
 
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But is he working through the company or as a private job on the side?

If gas safe say it can't be registered then it can't be registered.
 
hendrix88 said:
was warned that it was 'B' grade, so they're not allowed to install after April 2011, but as it was partly done, they'll be able to write a letter to Gas Safe and all will be OK.
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Can't register it? Then it's not fit for the purpose for which it was sold, you can't legally use it. Ask him to remove it and return your money.

You have got a receipt? How 'cheap' was it, compared to a SEDBUK A grade boiler?

The installer might well have known from the start, being a gas installer, that it couldn't be registered and was looking for some punter he could offload a scrap boiler onto. So he might not have handed over a receipt, nor any paperwork with his name on it, knowing what would happen next.
 
You only have yourself to blame , what was the cost £1000/1200? , see this all the time whereby any decent RGI just wants to carry out a good job for a fair price , then gets shafted because 'some other' outfit doesn't abide by the regs , you knew which type boiler SHOULD of been fitted but you went ahead with it anyway cos it was CHEAP , you made yer bed so lie in it.
 
In your post you mention the boiler being re located,If so gas safe and the buildings regs can't force you to upgrade to a new one,as long ad Te parts and the instructions are available you can legally re site it.

If the boiler was on site prior to April it can still legally be fitted,it's not meant to be purchased and installed after April,October was the initial date but stocks remained.

Do people actually believe all the big house builders with 100's of boilers in stock simply stopped fitting them,no they use the exemption that it's already purchased an been approved.

As for registering with gas safe,yes you can,just like you can still register SE boilers that were out o the building regs 5years ago,just simply insert Te exemption code when registering.

We may not like the practice because we all want to give customers the best kit but it can legally be sorted.
If your really worried,get the installer to issue a CP12, this wil satisfy the home owner pack if you wish to sell.
 
Oh if he did register it,you wouldn't thank him when the junkail starts arriving with loads of companies offering service contracts thanks to gas safe giving out all your details the highest bidder.
 
The OP has gone very quiet!

Is the installer personally gas registered?

Is the work being done by his employer?

If its a cash job done on the side then he is not gas registered for that job.

You can report him to Gas Safe in that case.

Or an interesting one and complain to his employer that he purported to be doing the job on their behalf but he has not registered the boiler, took a cash payment and you want the boiler to be properly registered and you expect the company to sort it out for you as it was their employee who caused you all the bother.

If you took that case to the court you would probably win because the homeowner cannot be expected to know the difference between the company and the employee and the employer is legally responsible for the actions of its employees.

Tony
 
For whats it's worth the building regs state it's the responsibility of the owner
To ensure the boiler is registered not the installer.
 
Thats true but there are two sides to the problem.

Building Control want to know that a boiler has been installed and NOT telling them is an offence with significant fines!

The Owner wants it notified by the installer because thats taken to be part of the job of installing a boiler and only the installer can do it at ( always ) a low cost. The Owner needs that done because apart from leaving him liable to fines its likely he will need the evidence when the property is sold.

Tony
 
just out of curiosity, i just made a notifiction to gassafe, i made a fictitious address and notified installing a 30w betacom boiler, it never rejected the notification and went all the way to the 'pay now' section, where i abandoned the notification,
so i think you can still gassafe reg it, to get the guarrantee, its not illegal to fit them, B+Q, mrcentralheating and lots of plumbers merchants still sell them, so i don't think they can lock you up for having one fitted,
 
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