Lead solder on potable water

doitall · 18 Oct 2011

To seriously answer the OP's question, and a few of the odd jobs that have answered.

It is wrong and contravenes the regs.

If there was a Clerk of the works on site he would have the lot ripped out, as would the water authority.

breadnbutter · 18 Oct 2011

dianef said:
Agile, I guess in the whole scheme of life it doesn't matter. And from 'similar posts' doodah I can see from your replies you don't really believe there is any health risk - thats fair play to you.

But I bet you still use lead free on pottable pipes when you are doing your work.

And its not about few quid difference in solder. Leaded solder just flows better when you can't be a***d to clean your joins properly. The man couldn't even be bothered to use a flux brush, he'd just dip the ends in the pot. Hardly a paragon for your profession.

To teach him a lesson, I'll tell his boss and get him to bring someone else to rip the pipework out and start again. And then I'll want them to check his previous work and correct that too as other customers should have a choice. Is that fair?

ok the plumber made a mistake,why not just ask him to replace the joints. thats fair.
why do you have to teach him a lesson, ring his boss,rip it out,i dont want him back. thats just vindictive

Nige F · 18 Oct 2011

Charnwood said:
There's only one 'T' in potable.

It`s wholesome now anyway

Onetap · 18 Oct 2011

breadnbutter said:
ok the plumber made a mistake,why not just ask him to replace the joints. thats fair.
why do you have to teach him a lesson, ring his boss,rip it out,i dont want him back. thats just vindictive

He almost certainly knew he shouldn't use lead solder; it would be worse if he hadn't known. He's a clown and is taking up a job a competent tradesman should have. Who cares what happens to him?

If the WRAS people did checks and could hand out penalty points, a third of the plumbers in the country would get banned. And there would be enough work for the real plumbers.

DeltaT2 · 18 Oct 2011

C'mon!! We all make mistakes, we're only human.

Agile · 18 Oct 2011

This can never have been a mistake!

I cannot believe there are any plumbers left who dont know about using unleaded solder.

He either ran out of unleaded and thought he would get away with it.

Or he was just lazy and used what he had in the house and saved two minutes getting it from the van.

Either way he was lazy or stupid but not incompetent as he clearly knew what he should have been using.

Being lazy and cutting corners, often to save money, is so common in this industry.

Customers encourage this by choosing the cheapest quote without considering the quality of the work.

I discovered today that I am the only installer on this forum who treats water using X300 in accordance with BS7593:1992

No wonder my quotes are usually too high.

Tony

satansbrother · 18 Oct 2011

Agile said:
No wonder my quotes are usually too high.

Tony

Bit like your opinion of yourself Tone.

7777777 · 18 Oct 2011

I discovered today that I am the only installer on this forum who treats water using X300 in accordance with BS7593:1992

No wonder my quotes are usually too high.

how would you know that?? ,,,if you do have a crystal ball can you let me know if ive got that job i over priced on letsbe avenue last week.....

Agile · 18 Oct 2011

When I give a quote then if I dont get the job then I expect that its because they got a cheaper figure elsewhere.

Sometimes, if its urgent like the boiler not working I stop by if passsing to see what van is outside.

One guy who I know wanted me to do the work because he rates my quality as very highly but I woupd not reduce the price so he went with my ex-trainee who quotes rather less!

Another reason not to take trainees who then just undercut you!

Tony

cantaloup63 · 18 Oct 2011

Charnwood said:
There's only one 'T' in potable.

You say potable, I say potato, you say tomato, I say tomatable. Let's call the whole thing off....

7777777 · 18 Oct 2011

it could be many things , work not up to scratch etc etc,,, its seems every job i go to the client is calling the last plumber,, always makes me laugh are you in london?? as your prices are so high ?sorry just noticed you are

Corgigrouch · 18 Oct 2011

I know a guy who was killed by lead...... He fell off the church roof.

dcawkwell · 18 Oct 2011

Leaded is cheaper.

But I only use unleaded don't fancy the lead fumes myself.

Talk about being cheap for the few pennies he's saved on the job.

JohnD · 18 Oct 2011

I reckon you're probably right about the lead fumes.

I know a builder who retired early with what seemed to be early-onset Alzheimers. Within a year he went from running his own business to having to be led round by his wife. The hospital think it was brain damage caused by working with lead. All very sad.

Dan Robinson · 18 Oct 2011

You have to wonder A) why you would want to work for a person like that?

and B) how much the water would get in touch with the lead in a hard water area anyway due to scale deposits?

Personally I get on better with leaded solder, but have both in the van for obvious reasons.

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