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Fitting a new gas hob in the existing kitchen and have been told that the bayonet fitting is no longer permitted and the installation must be hard piped in to conform to latest regs. Is this correct? It makes fitting the hob difficult to say the least'
 
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Fitting a new gas hob in the existing kitchen and have been told that the bayonet fitting is no longer permitted and the installation must be hard piped in to conform to latest regs. Is this correct? It makes fitting the hob difficult to say the least'
It is not correct, a hose can be fitted but only if the manufacturer specifically states it can.

And why would it make it difficult ? Any gas safe engineer should be able to hard pipe it quite easily.
 
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Fitting a new gas hob in the existing kitchen and have been told that the bayonet fitting is no longer permitted and the installation must be hard piped in to conform to latest regs. Is this correct? It makes fitting the hob difficult to say the least'
It is not correct, a hose can be fitted but only if the manufacturer specifically states it can.

And why would it make it difficult ? Any gas safe engineer should be able to hard pipe it quite easily.[/quote
Thanks,
Its not the piping thats the problem, its access to the rear of the units once the hob is in place. I can reach in with my hand to disconnect the bayonet but would have to dismantle things to get sufficient room to work on the pipework.
 
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Its not the piping thats the problem, its access to the rear of the units once the hob is in place. I can reach in with my hand to disconnect the bayonet but would have to dismantle things to get sufficient room to work on the pipework.
You simply get someone to get the pipework in place, then get them to come back and fit the hob when the kitchen is fitted.
 
As a general rule of thumb,if a hob has an oven fitted below it,it requires to be fitted with rigid pipework.If it just has drawers or a cupboard it can be fitted with a bayonet connection.

But manufacturers instructions always take precedence.
 
Andek.

As said, MI's take precedence.

If a drawer is fitted underneath, a fixed panel underneath the hob is often specified to minimise damage to the underside of the hob from moving items in the drawer.

Also, pay attention to the requirements for ventilation, most new ovens have 'forced draught' that reduces heat build-up surrounding that appliance, some don't and extra vents need to be provided at the rear of the hob and under the front of it.

Of course as an RGI with the relevant competencies you'll be aware of all this. :confused:

DH
 
Andex are you gas Safe or simply doing this work as a diy project in your own home?

I'm not yet Gas Safe, but will be starting college in September. However trying to get a head start buy purchasing study material like the JTL level 3 book which states to can use Bayonet fitting with hose connection to a gas hob if specified by manufacturer.

However not sure if you need to be gas safe to actually connect it yourself to the cooker. It seems a pretty straightforward task for anyone to do but i'm sure the gas safe guys will correct me if i'm wrong :)
 
Andrex, virtually all hobs have to be fitted with fixed pipework.

There should also be an isolating valve nearby which is best accessible.

Tony




PS Have any RGIs heard of the need for a heat shield below a hob?
 
However not sure if you need to be gas safe to actually connect it yourself to the cooker. It seems a pretty straightforward task for anyone to do but i'm sure the gas safe guys will correct me if i'm wrong

love it when someone says straightforward. :rolleyes: ironnaz go to collage first. get trained properly . then give sensible advice.
 
However not sure if you need to be gas safe to actually connect it yourself to the cooker. It seems a pretty straightforward task for anyone to do but i'm sure the gas safe guys will correct me if i'm wrong

love it when someone says straightforward. :rolleyes: ironnaz go to collage first. get trained properly . then give sensible advice.

the thing is i've fit attached several bayonet hobs (under supervison of a gas safe fella) and they were pretty straightforward, although things went smoothly. if something went tits up i'd hold my hands up and admit i wouldnt know what to do.
 
Even the most simple straightforward tasks should be carried out by a competent gas safe fitter, why take a chance of it going tits up.
 
the thing is i've fit attached several bayonet hobs (under supervison of a gas safe fella) and they were pretty straightforward, although things went smoothly. if something went **** up i'd hold my hands up and admit i wouldnt know what to do.

Did you just attach the hose and walk away? If an RGI is showing you how to do this, you should be doing more then that!!

:rolleyes:
 
As a general rule of thumb,if a hob has an oven fitted below it,it requires to be fitted with rigid pipework.If it just has drawers or a cupboard it can be fitted with a bayonet connection.

But manufacturers instructions always take precedence.
Youre rule of thumb is totally incorrect, If a hob has drawers or a cupboard under it it can still ONLY be fitted on a bayonet if the MI's SPECIFICALLY state it is allowed, if it is not specifically stated that it can be fitted on a hose then you refer to the gas regs that tell you a hose is not allowed to be used.
 
the thing is i've fit attached several bayonet hobs (under supervison of a gas safe fella) and they were pretty straightforward, although things went smoothly. if something went **** up i'd hold my hands up and admit i wouldnt know what to do.
There are very few hobs that allow you to use a hose so my hunch is that many of these hobs you fitted were done incorrectly and against regs.
 

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