Yale Premium Alarm Hsa6400 Wirefree Alarm Kit
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In regards to most wireless linked alarms the wireless equipment does meet the requirements for the use of the licence exempt frequency.
As with all equipment that complies with the licence exempt radio requirements there are compromises. It is the end users responsibility to ensure it is fit for purpose. My concern is that the necessary compromises and their consequences are not made explicitly clear at point of sale so the end user cannot make an informed judgement
Luckily there is the MOT which removes some of the dangers created by cheap skate car owners who go for the cheapest they can find.
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That is not what i said, and the examples you use all have specific requirements with regards to standards for emissions, electrical safety, safety testing, insulation etc....
So yes you can buy a cheap car or an expensive car, but they still have standards in pace to dictate how they work, what they emit and how safe they are, the only actual requirement for an alarm system is safety testing for mains so your comparisons i am afraid do not hold water.
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Because if he was told it could be 6 in five seconds he would have to admit that a burglar could enter a house without the alarm being triggered. The sensors would send a few alerts and then go to sleep and be kept asleep with the burglar movements.
How long does a baby monitor transmit speech on 433.92 Mhz when the baby is crying or a parent is talking singing or otherwise trying to calm the baby.
Probably longer than a burglar needs to get a few valuable items from the house next door.
I have however asked repeatedly what you think is the probability that an interfering signal will block your sensor at the same fraction of a second that a burglar breaks into your house, and you won't answer.
That's the only question that matters.
That's the only question that matters.
I'd be more interested to find out how long it took him to break in through the open door while the DiY alarm was set and the owner was blissfully unaware of the insecurity offered by the Yale system.
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Well I am glad you have said the above because I for one am convinced that having a Yale sensor in a room is better than having NO SENSOR AT ALL with a Grade2 system.
A certain company fits ONE door contact and THREE pirs and baulks at adding more because their installers have schedules to meet. I know their install takes only 1 hour because one installed at a house next to where I was installing and my install took 2 hours.
What is the point of adding a Grade 2 system when there simply aren't enough sensors to protect the property properly.
My install had an external siren at the front and a dummy siren at the rear as a visual deterrent.
The pro install had simply a dummy siren on the front and nothing at the back which ALL alarm installers know is the MOST VUNERABLE ASPECT.
I also installed a sensor in the garage - the pro company of course did not.
I installed a door contact on the front door and a door contact on the patio door whereas the pro install simply had a door contact on the front door.
I had a pir in the lounge - kitchen - hallway and dining room - of course the pro install had to miss one of those areas out. The hallway as it happens , shame about the front door with glass panels as someone could be in without opening the door and go upstairs and ransack the place and leave without anyone hearing a murmur.
I cringe just as much when I see pro installs offered cheap with 2 pir sensors and a door contact as you guys do at the thought of Yale. In fact I cringe even more.
I also cringe when people point to cheap visonic kits for sale on the net GRADE2 yeahhhhh except again the person fitting does not have a clue about a risk assesment and will buy the cheapest kit thinking because its graded kit he is safe..
oh dear oh dear..
And the point of all that dribble??
You really do have to get over your issues with Aunty Daisy.
Like i said earlier. Take the issue up officially if you are so certain they are in the wrong.
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The point being a poorly risk assesed Grade2 or one fitted with compromises because the owner will not pay for extra sensors is as much use as a chocolate fireguard but it will still be insurance approved and NACOSS honoured because the company installing will have paid there subscriptions.
Now everyone can bleat all they want about a Yale alarm (and you are for sure) but you cannot take any moral high ground when your systems are offered as guaranteed police response (when they won't) and a grade2 system is only as good as the pserson doing the risk assesment and the punters decision to pay the right money.
Now I know NACOSS charge to come and view installations so you keep your approval.
I wonder how many times they get sent to view a system with one door contact and two pir sensors? . . .
lol , I am certainly not going to wait for an answer to that one just the usual hysterical personal attack... bored.
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And your personal area of expertise in specifying and grading security systems is.....
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That is correct, and for the umpteenth time the probability depends ENTIRELY on the local use of the channel. You seem unable to realise it or you are just being a totally ignorant troll.
Probability of being hit by a car when crossing a country lane compared to the probility of being hit by a car when crossing the M25 motorway in the rush hour.
Or do you think those have the same probability
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lol ad hominem , what a surprise ...not!
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