Abu won`t go

Thanks for that - I'll read through it all a bit later. Final couple of questions for the time being..based on your deeper reading into these matters, do you think that Qatada actually is responsible for organising acts of terror?

If the answer is yes, do you think that it is acceptable for the UK to want to deport him as an undesirable who seems to have forgotten why he seeked asylum in the first place. I'm not suggesting sending him to Jordan, but to another country?

If the answer is no, then obviously that's that then.
Here's an idea...

Send him to the hague to be judged...

With the proviso of course that Bush and Bliar accompany him!
 
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No matter how hard the Home Office try to deport the radical hate-preacher Abu Qatada, he just keeps coming back. Apparently, they had even more trouble with his brother, Abu Meringue. :mrgreen:
 
Oh look...

Secret MI5 dossier:

The Security Service document has raised questions as to why Qatada – who the British Government has tried and failed to deport to Jordan – has not been put on trial in the UK for inciting murder.

Why not then aj?

(surely you've cooked your books by now... :LOL: )
 
VAT's done. I haven't finished the paperwork for the audit or assessment as yet. Gotta bit of wobbly bottom at leaving it a little late.

So you can find a "secret" file but you cant find anything that discredits the claim that he was in peshawar with his "mates" in 1989 planning a little bit of jihad :rolleyes:

Secret files? I Thought you didn't believe anything in the DM(perhaps it's only when it suits you like JD) ;)

Back to this file with the proof that he's a baddie and we don't/won't do anything with it. Why? BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT HIM. He's not wanted here It's only the misguided(thankfully very few) that think we should keep him.
 
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My understanding is that Qatada came to the UK as an asylum seeker from the injustices of Jordan. Over the last few years and presumably for the foreseeable, he has been vilified, imprisoned, dragged through the courts and placed under curfew and surveillance with access only to a small number of people. One would have thought that he'd want to seek a life elsewhere. Perhaps the UK should help facilitate his departure for his own benefit.
 
ellal
i havent read all these posts or comments but can you state why you are defending this guy? he is wanted for terrorist crimes and should be sent back, why should we let him stay here?
you have commented on no terrorist attacks before a certain time so i assume you have looked into it, but does that matter?
why is he here if he hates us so much
does he have an income or on benefit
i wish we would send them all back to where they profess to be abetter place than here, oh thats right they wont get away with spouting their hatred and bile except when they live in such an oppressive society as here
get them all out now, if they say they are protesting against us they should be forcibly removed and taken care of elsewhere why should we keep them,
 
I've got loads of work to do over the next few days so if I don't reply for a little while at least you know why.
I assume the 'work' you talk about is actually digging the hole you are in even deeper?

Have fun.... :LOL:

ellal why do you support these terrorists who come you this country and spread their hatred, do you support what he advocates
 
IMHO ellal sounds as though he believes that since the UK has blood on it's hands (some of which is highly dubious politically, morally and even legally), then it has no right to try and claim the moral high ground. Which is reasonable up to a point, the point being somewhere in the question "where do you draw a line in the interest of a nation's public safety?"

On the one hand it is to the UK's advantage to have someone who allegedly is as dangerous as Qatar removed from its shores, but the problem is where to? If he cannot be sent somewhere that will prevent him from functioning as an active enemy of the UK, then the only alternative is to keep him as under wraps as possible over here.
 
calorific is correct up to a point...

I don't defend Qatada....I think he may have committed crimes in this country, and as such should answer for them in a court in this country...

If found guilty then he should pay the penalty. If not he should be free.

It's unacceptable that in a country that claims to be a bastion of justice that a person can be jailed indefinately without any charges being brought forward or even evidence against them being disclosed...

And even though he has now been released after many years of incarceration, he is still held under terms that are unaccetable for a person that has not been accused of anything at all in this country..

Some may be happy to send a person to their fate in a country where justice is a nominal notion...

But I note that some of those advocating Qatada's extradition also balk at the extradition of other UK citizens/residents to another country where justice is dubious at best - America!
 
calorific is correct up to a point...

I don't defend Qatada....I think he may have committed crimes in this country, and as such should answer for them in a court in this country...

If found guilty then he should pay the penalty. If not he should be free.

It's unacceptable that in a country that claims to be a bastion of justice that a person can be jailed indefinately without any charges being brought forward or even evidence against them being disclosed...

And even though he has now been released after many years of incarceration, he is still held under terms that are unaccetable for a person that has not been accused of anything at all in this country..

Some may be happy to send a person to their fate in a country where justice is a nominal notion...

But I note that some of those advocating Qatada's extradition also balk at the extradition of other UK citizens/residents to another country where justice is dubious at best - America!


There's a bit of difference between someone playing around on the internet and someone spouting hatered!!
 
ellal
i havent read all these posts or comments but can you state why you are defending this guy? he is wanted for terrorist crimes and should be sent back, why should we let him stay here?
you have commented on no terrorist attacks before a certain time so i assume you have looked into it, but does that matter?
why is he here if he hates us so much
does he have an income or on benefit
i wish we would send them all back to where they profess to be abetter place than here, oh thats right they wont get away with spouting their hatred and bile except when they live in such an oppressive society as here
get them all out now, if they say they are protesting against us they should be forcibly removed and taken care of elsewhere why should we keep them,




Many Muslims today are not happy!

They're not happy in Gaza .
They're not happy in Egypt .
They're not happy in Libya .
They're not happy in Morocco .
They're not happy in Iran .
They're not happy in Iraq .
They're not happy in Yemen .
They're not happy in Afghanistan .
They're not happy in Pakistan .
They're not happy in Syria .
They're not happy in Lebanon .

So, where are they happy?

They're happy in Australia .
They're happy in the UK .
They're happy in Canada .
They're happy in the US .
They're happy in France .
They're happy in Germany .
They're happy in Italy .
They're happy in Sweden .
They're happy in Denmark .
They're happy in Norway .
So……They're happy in every country that is not Muslim.

And who do they blame?

Not Islam.
Not their leadership.
Not themselves.
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!
AND THEY WANT TO CHANGE THEM TO BE LIKE THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM WHERE THEY WERE UNHAPPY.

Excuse me, but have I missed something here?
 
Lets cut the bull.

The blokes a known terrorist and he chose to become one.
It was his choice to come here while on the run from Jordan where he is wanted on criminal charges not for some political show trial that some hope he will get here.

It has been his choice to fight extradition for his crimes (alleged is yet more bull) aided and abetted by highly paid human rights lawyers and as a consequence, his choice to remain imprisoned without trial for so long.

He has and will continue to evade justice every chance he gets because he doesn't have the courage of the young men and women he seeks to do his his dirty work. If he did, he would have gone already.

The courts asked for assurances that evidence obtained by torture would not be used at his trial. Those assurances were sort by our government and given by the Jordanians inline with the courts requests. What we don't yet know is why Lord Justice Mitting took it upon himself to deny the extradition back to Jordan.

And lest you think this is about justice, it isn't, it's about the law. And the law in this case is being taken as a fool because it's acting like one. If it were about justice he would have been gone long ago.
 
Lets cut the bull.

The blokes a known terrorist and he chose to become one.

lets also not forget this country sucks up to known terrorist and let them sit in the house of commons if they had chosen to.So this guy is doing what has gone on previously,namely playing the government of the day for fools.
 
The difference being the ones I referred to spilt British blood this guy would like to, allegedly. ;)
 
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