Buying a new gas cooker

flosswoss · 23 Nov 2012

Hi
I'm about to buy a cooker. The old one is 60cm and fits nicely into the space but I've heard that there needs to be a gap either side now. This would mean getting a 55cm one which would look silly. I know nothing about connecting one so would have to pay for this on delivery. Does anyone know if an installer would refuse to fit a 60cm in the space that is just right? Thanks

fidom · 24 Nov 2012

If the sides are properly insulated you don't need a gap so avoid any models that specify the need for a gap.

flosswoss · 24 Nov 2012

Thank you. I had a look at the fitting yesterday but wasn't sure what sort it was. It looks as though the kitchen fitter might have sealed it with something as well?

gas112 · 24 Nov 2012

Majority of them do not need any additional gap or any form of insulation that is why they are commonly refered to as slot in cookers..
And dont fit it yourself get a proper guy in

kirkgas · 24 Nov 2012

fidom said:
It is only a bayonet fitting the same idea as on a light bulb so it is easy to connect yourself. If the sides are properly insulated you don't need a gap so avoid any models that specify the need for a gap.

POOR ADVICE
to the OP, dont listen to this idiot, the new cooker needs to be commissioned and confirmed as safe, check online at instructions for cookers, some only need a 5mm gap at either side, and arent 600mm wide to start with

captaincaveman1 · 24 Nov 2012

fidom said:
It is only a bayonet fitting the same idea as on a light bulb so it is easy to connect yourself. If the sides are properly insulated you don't need a gap so avoid any models that specify the need for a gap.

So obvious you've no idea of the regs

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fidom · 24 Nov 2012

captaincaveman1 said:
fidom said:

It is only a bayonet fitting the same idea as on a light bulb so it is easy to connect yourself. If the sides are properly insulated you don't need a gap so avoid any models that specify the need for a gap.

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So obvious you've no idea of the regs .

The Gas Safe Register States:

Technical Bulletin number 25 dated 10/12/2010

The disconnection/reconnection ( at the same location ) of a self sealing appliance connector following installation is not deemed "gas work" and therefore may be carried out by non registered person(s), for example, when a home owner temporarily removes the cooker when cleaning. However when any person who is at work, disconnects or reconnects a self sealing connector they must be competent to a level that will ensure that the installation is not allowing gas to escape.

gas112 · 24 Nov 2012

Fitting a new cooker is not the same as disconnecting an existing one for cleaning

twgas · 24 Nov 2012

fidom said:
captaincaveman1 said:

fidom said:

It is only a bayonet fitting the same idea as on a light bulb so it is easy to connect yourself. If the sides are properly insulated you don't need a gap so avoid any models that specify the need for a gap.

Click to expand...

So obvious you've no idea of the regs .

Click to expand...

The Gas Safe Register States:

Technical Bulletin number 25 dated 10/12/2010

The disconnection/reconnection ( at the same location ) of a self sealing appliance connector following installation is not deemed "gas work" and therefore may be carried out by non registered person(s), for example, when a home owner temporarily removes the cooker when cleaning. However when any person who is at work, disconnects or reconnects a self sealing connector
they must be competent to a level that will ensure that the installation is not allowing gas to escape.

So the first install must be by RGI, as its not a REconnection

ianmcd · 24 Nov 2012

This is the reason why any new cooker doesnt have the flexi hose connected on delivery, the person that connects the hose to the cooker must be Gas Safe registered in order to carry out this WORK, to connect the hose to the Bayonet is not WORK under the regs

Agile · 24 Nov 2012

ianmcd said:
This is the reason why any new cooker doesnt have the flexi hose connected on delivery, the person that connects the hose to the cooker must be Gas Safe registered in order to carry out this WORK, to connect the hose to the Bayonet is not WORK under the regs

Actually it is work for the first time an appliance is fitted.

That is catered for in the note posted above:-

Technical Bulletin number 25 dated 10/12/2010

The disconnection/reconnection ( at the same location ) of a self sealing appliance connector following installation is not deemed "gas work" and therefore may be carried out by non registered person(s), for example, when a home owner temporarily removes the cooker when cleaning.

ianmcd · 24 Nov 2012

Read the post Tony !!!!!!! any operative installing a hose for the first time on a cooker must make sure that the appliance is safe to use, any one can subsequently attach said appliance to a bayonet fitting without being Gas Safe registered

flosswoss · 10 Dec 2012

Thank you for the enthusiasm. The new cooker arrived today, yay. Kitchen cupboards are 1cm too low so it didn't make it out of the box, boo. Why doesn't the retailer, who is never knowingly undersold, point out these regulations when you buy the flipping thing.

I don't want to open another can of worms, and I know the rules are there for safety, but would all gas fitters refuse to fit the cooker? The only other option is hacking lumps off the cupboard trim.

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