Put up or shut up...

ellal · 1 Apr 2013

Iain Duncan Smith: I could live on £53 per week

Should we give the numpty a chance to prove himself correct?

This petition calls for Iain Duncan Smith, the current The Work and Pensions Secretary, to prove his claim of being able to live on £7.57 a day, or £53 a week.

masona · 1 Apr 2013

Yeah right, £53 for gas, electric, water rate, council tax, rent/mortgage, foods, building/contents insurance and so on

ellal · 1 Apr 2013

Anyone 'could' live on £53 for a week...

Just not week after week after week!

Still we can't expect the truth fom a political numpty who lied more than once about his academic achievements (or lack of)...

Inky Pete · 1 Apr 2013

The £53 a week comes from a question posed by market trader David Bennett, 51, who works between 50 and 70 hours a week and earned around £2,700 last year. His income works out at around £53 per week.

He works 50+ hours a week for £2,700 a year???? Someone is hiding the vast majority of his cash takings there!!!!

Plus he gets free housing via housing benefit, free council tax, doesn't have to pay building insurance (landlords problem), will also get tax credits of about £40 a week - far more if he has kids.

So, at least £100 a week in total from declared income and tax credits assuming he's on his own plus free accommodation, free prescriptions, free council services and all the other welfare freebies. Not a fortune, but you won't starve or freeze.

Brigadier · 1 Apr 2013

Close relative works on the post office. Says that people (even young in their twenties people) regularly have £20k, £30k, even £42k in their "benefits account". Clearly, something isn't adding up. My relly says she could cry, as she works damned hard, gets dog's abuse from all manner of scutters who think handouts are their right, and can't begin to even dream of having that sort of money, despite having worked for 40 + years.
I don't know any of these claimants' personal circumstances, but there must be some serious cash going in, to amass that sort of money.....

ellal · 1 Apr 2013

The statement by IDS was quite clear - he could live on £53/week...

So we have to take that at face value and say ok, 'put up or shut up'...

Too many DM readers on here to appreciate that challenge it appears...

joe-90 · 1 Apr 2013

Why is it that non-working council tenants all have cars, drink, smoke non-stop, are fat and have massive tellies and sky subscription - then claim their kids are starving and need free school breakfasts?

AronSearle · 1 Apr 2013

Inky Pete said:
The £53 a week comes from a question posed by market trader David Bennett, 51, who works between 50 and 70 hours a week and earned around £2,700 last year. His income works out at around £53 per week.

He works 50+ hours a week for £2,700 a year???? Someone is hiding the vast majority of his cash takings there!!!!

Plus he gets free housing via housing benefit, free council tax, doesn't have to pay building insurance (landlords problem), will also get tax credits of about £40 a week - far more if he has kids.

So, at least £100 a week in total from declared income and tax credits assuming he's on his own plus free accommodation, free prescriptions, free council services and all the other welfare freebies. Not a fortune, but you won't starve or freeze.

ellal said:
The statement by IDS was quite clear - he could live on £53/week...

So we have to take that at face value and say ok, 'put up or shut up'...

Too many DM readers on here to appreciate that challenge it appears...

Oh dear ellal, someone else ripping your arguments apart, and all you can do is argue pedantics.

Deary deary me, you really need to do better than this if you want to take my troll crown.

ellal · 1 Apr 2013

joe-90 said:
Why is it that non-working council tenants all have cars, drink, smoke non-stop, are fat and have massive tellies and sky subscription - then claim their kids are starving and need free school breakfasts?

But could IDS live on £53/week as he claims?

It's a simple enough question...

ellal · 1 Apr 2013

AronSearle said:
Inky Pete said:

The £53 a week comes from a question posed by market trader David Bennett, 51, who works between 50 and 70 hours a week and earned around £2,700 last year. His income works out at around £53 per week.

He works 50+ hours a week for £2,700 a year???? Someone is hiding the vast majority of his cash takings there!!!!

Plus he gets free housing via housing benefit, free council tax, doesn't have to pay building insurance (landlords problem), will also get tax credits of about £40 a week - far more if he has kids.

So, at least £100 a week in total from declared income and tax credits assuming he's on his own plus free accommodation, free prescriptions, free council services and all the other welfare freebies. Not a fortune, but you won't starve or freeze.

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ellal said:

The statement by IDS was quite clear - he could live on £53/week...

So we have to take that at face value and say ok, 'put up or shut up'...

Too many DM readers on here to appreciate that challenge it appears...

Click to expand...

Oh dear ellal, someone else ripping your arguments apart, and all you can do is argue pedantics.

Deary deary me, you really need to do better than this if you want to take my troll crown.

pmsl...

you've never even been able to muster an argument at all!

good old soft in the head always used to be the 'pedantic' one...

And like him/her/it you are now on ignore...

Inky Pete · 1 Apr 2013

Take accommodation costs out of the equation, along with council tax, insurance, transport costs, prescriptions etc., and add in nearly the same again in tax credits then yes, I could live on Mr Bennett's income.

Not comfortably, but like I said I wouldn't starve and I wouldn't freeze.

Then add in God only knows how much in cash takings that he's obviously not declaring - NOBODY really works 50-70 hours a week for less than £1 an hour!!! - and I think you'll find that Mr Bennett can probably afford a better lifestyle than most!

chapeau · 1 Apr 2013

I reckon there's more to this story than we know about. Lots of unpleasant people will be digging so the truth will out.

ellal · 1 Apr 2013

The thing is, regardless of 'the story', IDS has claimed he can live on £53/week...

He didn't put a proviso on that claim...

So he should put up or shut up!

He won't of course...

chapeau · 1 Apr 2013

He will tell us that was after all bills had been paid, whatever that means, which is perfect for his story.

Put up or shut up...

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