Don't hold your breath.
Rolf Harris Arrested
- Thread starter HERTS P&D
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mdf290
mdf,, LMB probably knows nothing of safeguarding issues. I bet he can't even think of half a dozen forms of abuse, which would warrant raising an issue with the safeguarding team.
Safeguarding??? What does HE know about safeguarding. F*ck all.
He wastes the valuable time decent people require from the Police in times of REAL need.
The only person who let this woman down was HIM.
I let the woman down by being stupid enough to tell the police the person who had historically abused her and pimped her was now breaching police ORDERS by being in direct contact with her and she is expecting a child.
You call that wasting police time . . I guess so after all I'd hate to drag you out of a takeaway or MaccyD's to actually do something important.
Your true colours are coming through bean all those years in uniform have not gone to waste your disregard for others is exemplary.
What do you impose orders on people for bean - so they can be ignored? Because they dont matter and aren't important.
Do you think this order might have been placed on this guy because he was a real danger?
Here's one for you to mull over. Maybe she was together with him because she was scared ****less of him and couln't say NO. She looked like a bag of nerves when I saw her. Maybe she even got a few more beatings for the police letting slip that her doctors had grassed on him and he felt somehow that was her fault. Maybe she went off the health radar because she was black and blue.
Bean stop talking out of your arse.
If you want to start effing it about how I waste police time at least make the call using some intelligence and thought.
PCSO Bean would have been out yesterday wasting police time guarding a bunch of marathon runners from a non-existent threat. So quadruple pay on overtime, day or two off in lieu, and today he'll be far to busy moonlighting to post on 'ere.
Are you saying that you are in a civil partnership. I've changed me mind now, I'm interested. Is it peterpizzpot? Does he give you wood?
Peter's his Beech
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Could be worse --I could have been sooeys-- but I turned him down.
Look it's simple stuff.
Why did you and the GP fail in your professional capacity to sit the woman down and discuss your concerns about the boyfriend.????
You didn't bother your ass.
You jumped in and monumentally f*cked it.
Not only that, the burglary victim and the stabbed teenager down the road, waiting for urgent Police response, get none because they're wasting their b*stard time on people like you.
Why didn't you sit down and discuss it with her. Tell me.
Can't you tell what they are yet...
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mdf290
Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
What do you think would have happened if we had pointed out we knew what was happening and were concerned she was seeing her 'boyfriend'. She would have DONE A RUNNER Exactly what happened when PLOD failed to exercise discretion and blabbed his mouth off.
So we tried to be careful and involved the agencies needed ie the safeguarding team , the health visitors , our clinical governance leads and everyone with a stake in keeping a watching brief on this scenario . . . and then we involved PLOD doh! Bag opened cat escaped!!
The GP wasn't involved because his job was to monitor the health of the child. It would have been so absolutely wrong for him to discuss her partner on the basis of her 'partner/pimps' violence.
Information Governance - Patient confidentiality , The Caldicott guardianship and data protection laws prevent such crossovers but then you are a plod and you dont bother about such niceties and just blab whatever you feel like , why you blab some more if someone pays too.
There's no use trying to make out you were needed at a burglary etc etc.
We are talking here about the safety of an unborn child and the health of an expectant mother. We really aren't concerned about someone with a broken eurocylinder and a stolen laptop.
Besides you are talking about showing up somewhere AFTER the event... what's so good about handing out a crime number.
Here we are talking about PREVENTING a disaster.
You obviously fail to grasp this subject entirely in exactly the same way your erstwhile colleague who dealt with it did.
Not immpressed with your F*cks and B*stards by the way. Looks like you need some sort of counseling.
Nonsense. His primary role is the welfare of the patient, secondary would be the life of the unborn child.
A mother and unborn child in difficulty in an emergency situation, the doctors will always save the life of the mother.
You should know that.
You mean the very patient confidentiality that you so easily betrayed and phoned the Police about???
But let's not fall out about it.
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mdf290
No I informed the safeguarding team it was they who spoke with the police. The first I knew the Police were involved was when the patient came to the surgery to acuse us of speaking to the police about her boyfriend..
That is the point when I thought who the hell let that slip!!??
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joinerjohn
If the local safeguarding team feel it's necessary to involve the police, the onus is then on the police to preserve confidentiality. It's not that often that the police would be involved in safeguarding issues. Only in extreme cases where the safeguarding team feel there is a real danger to life, would they involve the police. Most safeguarding issues wouldn't even warrant police involvement.
Would LMB, if he thought someone was in immediate danger (under similar circumstances) fail to notify any service which could be involved?
As soon as someone approaches the safeguarding team about a potential issue, patient confidentiality (between a practice and patient) has already been broken.
Perhaps LMB thinks if a doctor is dealing with a patient "at risk" then any worries he/she has, should remain totally confidential? Sadly some people actually care about patients, under their care. (the operative word being CARE ) (more specifically "Duty of Care" )
Would LMB, if he thought someone was in immediate danger (under similar circumstances) fail to notify any service which could be involved?
As soon as someone approaches the safeguarding team about a potential issue, patient confidentiality (between a practice and patient) has already been broken.
Perhaps LMB thinks if a doctor is dealing with a patient "at risk" then any worries he/she has, should remain totally confidential? Sadly some people actually care about patients, under their care. (the operative word being CARE ) (more specifically "Duty of Care" )
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