Quality Double Glazing the cheap way ! Any advice please

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Hi all,

I have a situation where all the windows in the house still have old wooden sash windows, they are in a good condition, just need a bit of sanding down and perhaps new paint. Now I want to replace them with double glazed windows, but do not want to spend heaven and earth replacing it.

Whilst doing some research over the internet, I realised that one can take measurement and get the windows designed/made, sent to you and then my builder said he can fit them for me. I’m guessing this approach will be cheaper compared to getting a double glazing company to fit them all, in total I need about 4 windows and that’s it, not very big at all.
I have a couple of questions, are there any reliable companies that anyone can recommend to me, I’m in the London area. Secondly, are there any gotchas that I need to be aware of with this approach? I was quoted about £1,700 for the 4 windows, basic design including fitting.


Any materials that I will need for this, should I decide to stick to this approach ?
 
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Lastly, I know those sash windows can be sold for something. Anyone have any idea of who buys sash windows ?
 
£1700 sounds dirt cheap for timber double glazed sash windows. I've just ordered 2 for over £2600 and that is fitting them myself.

However, my old ones were beyond saving so I have no choice, if yours are in good condition there may be little point in replacing them. £1700 would more than cover the difference in heating costs for many many years!
 
TheVictorian said:
£1700 sounds dirt cheap for timber double glazed sash windows. I've just ordered 2 for over £2600 and that is fitting them myself.

However, my old ones were beyond saving so I have no choice, if yours are in good condition there may be little point in replacing them. £1700 would more than cover the difference in heating costs for many many years!
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Point of correction, I dont need Double Glazed sash wooden windows. All I am asking for is UPVC double glazed windows, doesnt have to open the way a sash does, I'm happy if it opens outwards.
 
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Is your builder going to guarantee them for 10 years and register them with fensa? We do supply only Kommerling A rated windows and deliver to London.
 
Doesn't guarantee come from suppliers Or manufacturers ?
do you supply and fit or supply only, any website, references etc ?
 
You will only get a manufacturer guarantee, if something goes wrong it will still be down to your builder to put it right. Maybe your builder is fensa registered already. Maybe your builder will give his own guarantee. Look at my profile
 
You get what you pay for. Would you buy 4 cars for £1700 and expect them to last 10 years?

If you don't have the money don't do it. I would expect to pay £1000 minimum per timber window supplied, installed and a guarantee.
 
Khalid1 said:
You get what you pay for. Would you buy 4 cars for £1700 and expect them to last 10 years?

If you don't have the money don't do it. I would expect to pay £1000 minimum per timber window supplied, installed and a guarantee.
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Your crystal balls not working either and you've not read the whole thread have you, you naughty boy! :p
 
Ripping out good sash windows for cheapy and sh tty upvc?

Its a bit like selling a rolls royce silver shadow in echange for a six grand kia, you might get slightly better better mpg for ten years, but you will have sold your soul in return.


Daniel
 
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With the ever growing costs of Heating UPVc is going to be more cost efective in the long term, and will be decor free, if its done properly then it can look very good
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heres one i did earlier, i love wood i have a wooden front door and will not change it as it enhances my property not everyone can afford the ever rising costs of fuel and wooden double glazed windows just dont have the correct drainage to make them last
 
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With the ever growing costs of Heating UPVc is going to be more cost efective in the long term, and will be decor free, if its done properly then it can look very good heres one i did earlier...
...wooden double glazed windows just dont have the correct drainage to make them last
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I fully support that current fuel prices, and the expectation of future fuel prices, mean that in the long term it often makes financial sense to make home improvements in decrease heat loss, and that drafty single glazed windows can be a significant source of heat loss.
However almost all of the rest of that post is *******s, uPVC typically offers the worse cost/life of any window technology available and mediocre thermal performance, and there is no reason at all why a DG wooden window cant last as long as a single glazed one, and there is masses of proof both empirically and theoretically that wooden windows last decades with minimal maintenance.

I presume your using the phrase 'decor free' to suggest they don't need painting?

Don't get me wrong, when the (7year old) uPVC window in my 1940 ex-council semi (first house, which I live in and let out rooms of) packed up I swapped it like for like, because it was cheap and easy and is what perspective tenants and buyers expect. But if you walked upto me in the street and showed me that photo and asked me to comment on the windows I would say 'the one of the left looks like it has the original windows, and the one on the right looks like its had half decent uPVC replicas put in, which I wouldn't have done myself'


Daniel
 
Well Daniel,

You are a very rare person indeed the majority of the bill payers dont support the ever rising cost of utility bills especially when you look at the end of year profits they are making.

Secondary glazing is not always possible to use and very often can change the inside looks of a room the longest recorded Rehau product is 40+ years and going strong still, My longest is 22 years like anything its how its maintained that will help it last longer Just because it has a 10 year gauratee, there is no reason why it wont perform past 10 years, Sadly most windows, doors that are made from wood that are sold against upvc products in the market place dont have seasoned wood, and normally the wrong wood is used as its cheeper, Wooden windows that were made some 50+ years ago had the wood seasoned and was crafted by joiners, sadly the market that most people can afford is mass produced wooded windows that are not what they used to be You seem to be anti upvc and thats fine I enjoy both but unfotunatly many people are not in a finacial position to voice as you have
 
As per the comment on dg windows lasting as long as single glazed this is where you have made a comment that is so wrong, double glazed upvc windows have been designed with multichambers the reasons why i will leave for another lesson but within these chambers are drainage ports "" all double glazed windows have water penetration its the drainage holes that allow water to flow out"" if a window does not incorparate drainage holes then the water will not drain and its the water that does the most damage to the sealed unit thus it breaks down as its sat in water now wooden windows can have drainage ports in but this is saturated where the water runs out and its here where you cant apply any stain or paint as you cant get to it... hense your window will start to rot from the inside also upvc windows exspand and contract better that the wooden ones many wooded windows dont exspand and contract yet the sealed unit can thus it can pop the glass thats why dg wooded windows dont last as long as single glazed windows
 
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