Is An Isolator In A Shower/bath Area Acceptable

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Just want an opinion on this guys. I know what I would do but it seems the NIC think it's acceptable ...

I have posted this on another forum but wanted to get a wider opinion.
 
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Would depend if the switch (not pull cord) is outside the zones? if it is? Although not really an ideal position, it could be acceptable in accordance to BS7671.
But I would personally consider that there is a higher chance of moisture ingress, through condensation than there would be if located outside the shower area, so I would consider flagging up under external influence.
 
Would you switch an electrical appliance on or off with your feet in water no matter how much you trusted an RCD? This seems a stupid place for an isolator!
Next room or as far away from the Zones as practicable.
 
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Would depend if the switch (not pull cord) is outside the zones? if it is? Although not really an ideal position, it could be acceptable in accordance to BS7671.
But I would personally consider that there is a higher chance of moisture ingress, through condensation than there would be if located outside the shower area, so I would consider flagging up under external influence.

going back to site tomorrow to double check ceiling height and carry out remedial work. The shower head is within 6 inches of isolator. Even if switch was above 2.25m and shower head fitted at ceiling level it would still comply according to two Scheme providers. I am making sure I am not going to get blamed when the proverbial hits the fan should something go wrong. I have read and re-read all the relevant regs on this and there are too many grey areas and conflicts. The Regs are and always have been too vague on some things. It seems also that they are dumbing them down too much. Where will it end.
 
How high is the ceiling?

going back tomorrow to double check measurements. Forgot to take a reading when first on site as I thought this would be straight forward common sense and would be given permission to go ahead with moving it. Can't believe this was not picked up on the original EICR (not done by me I must add)
 
Would you switch an electrical appliance on or off with your feet in water no matter how much you trusted an RCD? This seems a stupid place for an isolator!
Next room or as far away from the Zones as practicable.

my sentiments exactly!
 
Would depend if the switch (not pull cord) is outside the zones? if it is? Although not really an ideal position, it could be acceptable in accordance to BS7671.
But I would personally consider that there is a higher chance of moisture ingress, through condensation than there would be if located outside the shower area, so I would consider flagging up under external influence.

I agree.
 
I don't like the fact that the string of the pull switch can become wet throughout its length with no real effort, and maybe even wick water up into the switch.

Don't like it.
 
Assuming the switch is over 2.25m above finished floor level to the bottom of the switch (excluding the pull cord), then it is permitted by BS7671.

You can NOT put things on an EICR which comply with BS7671, just because you don't like them.

To be honest, the risks are probably lower than having an electric shower within the shower enclosure, and no body bats an eyelid at that....
 
Interesting but whilst the regs state from floor, the activity is being carried out from inside the bath so maybe much higher. Does that make a difference?
 
Interesting but whilst the regs state from floor, the activity is being carried out from inside the bath so maybe much higher. Does that make a difference?
Strangely, no - as far as the regs are concerned (don't ask me!). The only thing which makes a difference to the zones is if a shower head is more than 2.25m above floor level.

Kind Regards, John
 

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