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a god is purely a notion.. instilled into accepting brains... similar to ghosts and gremlins...
With no physical evidence,god can be nothing else !
No. We won't.
While I broadly get what you are driving at ( you accidentally having made a decent stab at offering a credible response) I will not be referring to the origins of the universe as 'God' if you are thinking about the Abrahamic vision of an omnipotent sadist that most people of a religious bent worship.
If you are just suggesting we use the word as a convenience fair enough, however, I contend that 'god' is not a good word to use as it will inevitably lead to a confusion.
How about, 'the colossal vomit of the making of all stuff and things'?
While I broadly get what you are driving at ( you accidentally having made a decent stab at offering a credible response) I will not be referring to the origins of the universe as 'God' if you are thinking about the Abrahamic vision of an omnipotent sadist that most people of a religious bent worship.
If you are just suggesting we use the word as a convenience fair enough, however, I contend that 'god' is not a good word to use as it will inevitably lead to a confusion.
How about, 'the colossal vomit of the making of all stuff and things'?
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I think you've accidentally understood what I've been saying for years.
And you have been saying it for years, haven't you?
The same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again!
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I think you've accidentally understood what I've been saying for years.
And you have been saying it for years, haven't you?
The same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again!
And it's just as true every time I say it - and you can't refute it.
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Sombrero
Joe, tell us your religious affiliation... what are you?
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Sombrero
Ok, you did it on another thread... these threads are all converging... we should can a couple and focus on one or two !!
a god is purely a notion.. instilled into accepting brains... similar to ghosts and gremlins...
With no physical evidence,god can be nothing else !
Matthew 4:7
Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’”
Ah, I see. Because 'it is written', we are not allowed to question religious beliefs and rules.
To the best of my knowledge, there is no external evidence of a god, beyond circular, internal , self referential arguments that one must exist.
eg 'I believe that the Bible is God's Word . and the Bible says God exists, therefore God exists'
Evidence needs to be external of the belief system that uses it to support itself eg fossils are evidence that support the theory of evolution.
It would be great if there was actual evidence of a god, afterlife or some spiritual world, beyond the arguments I mention above , but there simply isn't.
This of course allows the believer to say that if you could prove it you would not need faith , so that is why we do not have proof, or worse still quote Augustine's 'proof'.
More than happy to be corrected on the existence of evidence as it would be quite useful now that I am getting on in years.
eg 'I believe that the Bible is God's Word . and the Bible says God exists, therefore God exists'
Evidence needs to be external of the belief system that uses it to support itself eg fossils are evidence that support the theory of evolution.
It would be great if there was actual evidence of a god, afterlife or some spiritual world, beyond the arguments I mention above , but there simply isn't.
This of course allows the believer to say that if you could prove it you would not need faith , so that is why we do not have proof, or worse still quote Augustine's 'proof'.
More than happy to be corrected on the existence of evidence as it would be quite useful now that I am getting on in years.
so are you saying that fossils are evidence of evolution, but at the same time are you discrediting the material evidence of creation, and including the fossil.
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