Kitchen refurb - typical costs

paulc2 · 16 Dec 2013

Our kitchen needs a total refurb, including repairing a damaged ceiling (due to water damage from bathroom above - now fixed), adding a sink into a downstairs toilet (the kitchen has an attached utility room (no door), then a downstairs loo behind a door), and complete re-decorating including tiling and flooring. We would like a tiled floor, the floor area of the kitchen and utility and loo is approx. 14m2 as a size guide.

I've searched and searched and can't get the price any lower than about £3400 - does this seem about right?

Here is a split of the items needed:

2x worktops 198
kitchen units 958

tiled floor 400
wall tiling 200
replace radiator with a smaller, including extending pipes 50

gas cooker disconnect/reconnect 100
gas hob 50
built under double oven 120
cooker hood 100
moving plumbing connections for washing machine 20
2nd sink for downstairs loo 80
taps for basin 30
plumbing in basin (parts) 25

lighting 100
repair ceiling 80
paint 50
plastering walls 60
additional electrics: sockets for fridge and freezer 60

Loo roll holder 5
Towel holder (for loo) 10
New light for loo 15
New light for utility area 20
Kitchen roll holder 10

Sealant 10
Tile adhesive 15
Tile grout 15
Screws to join units, and to secure wall units to wall 4
Bolts to join worktop corner join 10

extra power tools 465
inc SDS drill, worktop joining jig, router

extra hand tools 135

TOTAL 3395

(The kitchen units price includes a sink + tap for £150; and a corner carousel).

We have an old gas cooker and its past its best so I'd like to go for a replacement built-under double oven (can be gas or electric) and hob (gas). Since these items are quite pricey, and it seems that some people 're-do' their kitchens and replace appliances even when there's nothing wrong with them, I was going to scour eBay/etc to see if I can get a reasonable secondhand one for less. Obviously the gas items would need connecting properly, and there's always the risk of them not working right.

Do the prices seem about right? Or can you see any obvious areas I can save further money on the budget?

The kitchen units are for 600 cupboard, 1000 corner unit, 600 drawers, space for oven, 1000 cupboards; and 1900mm of wall units.[/b]

ChristianoRonaldo · 16 Dec 2013

best advise get the professionals in to do it. phone up at least 3 to get quotes and do not select based on price alone ensure you look at their feedback and previous work before deciding. Cannot stress this more ensure you write up a contract. I made the mistake years ago and would not trust a tradesmen to hammer a nail without drawing up a contract. best place to get cheap quotes is my hammer where the tradesmen mostly eastern european are willing to work for peanuts and unlike the English no offense do a blimey good job or use scriptjam.co.uk there phone number never works but email them. used them a few times and have no complaints. Alternatively mate, do it yourself using youtube videos. Sounds silly but I tiled my bathroom and fixed a leak in my pipes using tips from videos in this case a selotape like sealant lol cheaper then getting the pipes replaced. got too much xmas expenditure to be forking out on home improvements this month

paulc2 · 16 Dec 2013

I've done a fair amount of home DIY previously (but not fitted a kitchen) but also done a lot of DIY work on cars and boats. I know its not the same, but there's obvious transferable skills there and I've done a lot of research already on "how things are done". I'm fairly confident I can do it all myself, and money is tight so I don't want to get professionals in to do it. There's a lot of work (because the room needs to be done from top to bottom) but a lot of it is simple stuff.

mikeey84 · 17 Dec 2013

Hi Paul, I redid my kitchen this year myself, and there isnt really anything that challenging about it (although the electrics and gas work were done by pros for mates rates)

I am a novice DIYer, but by breaking down each task into keys steps, and making sure everything was done in the right order I went from empty shell to full kitchen in 1 week.

You have a lot of budget for buying tools, I would spend some of that on hiring or getting a pro (worktop cutting, i borrowed my father in law) as it will probably cost the same, and routers are not that common a diy tool.

£60 for plastering walls seems cheap, unless DIY, then seems expensive.

I would check Ebay or similar for kitchen units, as despite what the sheds try and tell you, its just chipboard screwed together.

My 2nd hand electric cooker/gas hob is still going strong, although it was wired with a flex and plug rather than 4mm T&E so that proved to be a bit of an issue!

Steve · 18 Dec 2013

paulc2 said:
2x worktops 198 ABOUT RIGHT FOR 3M LENGTHS
kitchen units 958 ABOUT RIGHT BUT COULD GET CHEAPER. HANG ON IF IT INCLUDES A SINK AND TAPS AND DOORS ETC THEN THIS IS CHEAP

tiled floor 400 DEPENDS on whether you are doing it yourself.
wall tiling 200 TOO MUCH IF DIY.
replace radiator with a smaller, including extending pipes 50 CHEAP.

gas cooker disconnect/reconnect 100 NOT BAD
gas hob 50 CHEAP
built under double oven 120 VERY CHEAP
cooker hood 100 CHEAP
moving plumbing connections for washing machine 20 DIY? WASTE IS EASY!
2nd sink for downstairs loo 80 CHEAP
taps for basin 30 DO YOU NEED THIS LEVEL OF ITEMISATION??
plumbing in basin (parts) 25 OK IF PART OF OTHER JOBS AT SAME TIME.

lighting 100 DEPENDS WHAT KIND OF LIGHTING!
repair ceiling 80 GOOD
paint 50 GOOD
plastering walls 60 CHEAP
additional electrics: sockets for fridge and freezer 60 NOT BAD.

Loo roll holder 5 ????
Towel holder (for loo) 10 REALLY?
New light for loo 15 ZZZZzzzzzz...... . . . . . . . .
New light for utility area 20
Kitchen roll holder 10 Now this is just taking the p . . . .

Sealant 10 YES.
Tile adhesive 15 GET GOOD QUALITY £25 A BAG FOR THE FLOOR!
Tile grout 15 AGAIN, GET QUALITY STUFF, £20 A BAG.
Screws to join units, and to secure wall units to wall 4 HAVENT YOU GOT ANY KNOCKING ABOUT? MOST UNITS COME WITH JOINING SCREWS.
Bolts to join worktop corner join 10 YES

extra power tools 465
inc SDS drill, worktop joining jig, router DON'T PUT THIS IN YOUR BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT. SIMPLES.

extra hand tools 135 AGAIN.

TOTAL 3395

(The kitchen units price includes a sink + tap for £150; and a corner carousel).

We have an old gas cooker and its past its best so I'd like to go for a replacement built-under double oven (can be gas or electric) and hob (gas). Since these items are quite pricey, and it seems that some people 're-do' their kitchens and replace appliances even when there's nothing wrong with them, I was going to scour eBay/etc to see if I can get a reasonable secondhand one for less. Obviously the gas items would need connecting properly, and there's always the risk of them not working right.

Do the prices seem about right? Or can you see any obvious areas I can save further money on the budget? GET POWER TOOLS OUT OF THE BUDGET. DIY EASY STUFF LIKE TILING WALLS. FLOORS CAN BE A BIT TRICKIER, BUT POSSIBLE FOR A GOOD DIYER. DID MY BATHROOM AND MY MUM'S CONSERVATORY.

The kitchen units are for 600 cupboard, 1000 corner unit, 600 drawers, space for oven, 1000 cupboards; and 1900mm of wall units.[/b]

Steve · 18 Dec 2013

Try to get all the plumbing done at once - the gas safe guy will probably do your pipework to the new rad and to the sink etc. It's awkward but I managed to get all my plumbing done in 2 visits and I had to move the hob, boiler and sink!

Also same applies to the electrics. If you can get an electrician to spend the day there and do everything, he'll just charge you a day rate, maybe £150-250, but most electricians prefer this to lots of little jobs.

mikeey84 · 19 Dec 2013

Steve said:
Try to get all the plumbing done at once - the gas safe guy will probably do your pipework to the new rad and to the sink etc. It's awkward but I managed to get all my plumbing done in 2 visits and I had to move the hob, boiler and sink!

Also same applies to the electrics. If you can get an electrician to spend the day there and do everything, he'll just charge you a day rate, maybe £150-250, but most electricians prefer this to lots of little jobs.

I agree with everything this man has said.

Some of your prices are too high for DIY or very low if getting a pro in.

If you are stripping the room bare, get all of the electrics, gas and water stuff done then. Running pipes/wires behind units is a P-I-T-A.

Have a go at the pipework for all but the radiator, easy enough to tell if its leaking, and if you cant stop it, get a pro in. Basic plumbing is not that difficult, and tends to be alot safer than basic electrics and gas.

Spend your money on trades where a neat job is important (joining worktops, plastering etc). No one tends to care how neat a pipe run is behind cabinets.

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