MAS Flight Number MH 370

...German and American oceanographers are planning to deploy the world's three unmanned "Abyss" type deep sea search submarines to track down the remains of the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

Der Spiegel magazine said scientists at the Helmholtz Oceanography Institute in the German port city of Kiel had arranged with their counterparts at the Massachusetts-based Woods Hole Institute to deploy the three submarines which can dive to depths of 6,000 metres and stay submerged for up to 24 hours...
...Germany's Helmholtz Institute owns one of the 12-foot long "Abyss" submarines which is normally used for oceanographic research. America's Woods Hole Institute owns the other two.

In the spring of 2011, the three submarines were used successfully to track down the wreckage of the lost Air France flight 447 Airbus aircraft ...

Sign of the times - no British kit.

Guess we'll become aware of a different acronym soon - AUV (autonomous underwater vehicle.)
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/08auvfest/background/auvs/auvs.html

Let it not be forgotten :-
Bureau d'Enquêtes et d'Analyses pour la Sécurité de l'Aviation Civile (BEA; translated as "Bureau of Enquiry and Analysis for Civil Aviation Safety") Said, re :- Air France flight 447
...Conclusion
The discovery of the wreckage concludes months of searches undertaken
in very difficult conditions. It should be noted that, in order to avoid such difficult searches in the future, more frequent position reporting by airplanes is required (flight AF447 transmitted its position only every 10 minutes) This was the subject of a recommendation made by the BEA in its Interim Report on 17 December 2009...
Hence the recent comment by the Inmarsat spokesperson that the industry have been dragging their feet over something (frequent positional/operational data stream) which would cost $1 per hour wholesale, using current. fitted equipment.

Here comes Chicago-based Ribbeck Law acting for families related to the Malaysian airlines 777 debacle - main target must be Boeing? endless dollars, USA based litigation - the bewigged better not find fault with the old 777 design...

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Indeed, our contribution to rescue seems to be lacking credibility apart from the first data that came from immersat operated from london


Inmersat has alreadt established a good contact with many Airline operators, only if Malaysian Airlines had been fitted with passenger communication system that someone from the plane may have alerted us for possible terrorism or mechanical failure. http://www.inmarsat.com/aviation/

Wonder who would be coughing up the cost of the entire search, and the cost of recovery of wreckage and may be the bodies!

and cost of componsation to relatives of the dead ones.
 
Mikefromlondon wrote:

One Chinese rightly chellenged why the plane was not detected by Thiland when it flew over its territory by its military or civilian radars, so that shows that many Nations aren't alert at all, imagine if some hostile nation (N.Korea) had launched a nuke and no one would have been able to detect until a week later when all would have been devastated!

JBR wrote:

I don't think it would take a week until someone found out!

Mikefromlondon said:
I guess you are right JBR, it would be all over the twitter as it happens! :LOL:
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I was actually thinking of the people upon whom the nuclear warhead landed! Probably South Korea.
 
Pip me old mate, how are you??

The manufacturers of the pingers were talking on the TV the other day. There are recommendations to improve the design and performance of the pingers as a result of AF447, but the new regs. don't come in till 2015.

I understand with electrical regs things are not like that, but you'd think with a recommendation like that, the governing authorities would work on changing the design and implementing it ASAP.
 
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securespark said:
Pip me old mate, how are you??

The manufacturers of the pingers were talking on the TV the other day. There are recommendations to improve the design and performance of the pingers as a result of AF447, but the new regs. don't come in till 2015.

I understand with electrical regs things are not like that, but you'd think with a recommendation like that, the governing authorities would work on changing the design and implementing it ASAP.
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I am not around too often these daze,
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We have still not found remains of Noah's Arc, sure after the graet floods, the arc would have been made redundant and broken up and its timber used up as fuel, so there is very little chance of finding anything literally, further more if it was abandond somewhere, especially in the sea, we may find it too one day as we are looking for MaLYSIAN plane, suddenly we might be looking at something toatlly different object that may seem out of this world!:cool:
 
Mikefromlondon said:
We have still not found remains of Noah's Arc, sure after the graet floods, the arc would have been made redundant and broken up and its timber used up as fuel, so there is very little chance of finding anything literally, further more if it was abandond somewhere, especially in the sea, we may find it too one day as we are looking for MaLYSIAN plane, suddenly we might be looking at something toatlly different object that may seem out of this world!:cool:
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Are you on the vestry wine again?
 
there is a possibility that the plane flew towards West and then south, but changed its course towards right heading back towards West to mis Sri lankan radars and the maldives and US Base atr Diego Garcia and then tried to fly towards North heading for possibly nations like Pakistan or Iran but may have run out 0of fuel and may well be lying in the Arabian sea, other than this it may well have landed in some part of pakistan, who wouldn't know like they didn't know bin laden was living right in their army barracks back yard! :LOL:

One lady (Sarah Balc) whose husband worked for IBM, who was on that flight refuses to believe that her husband is dead and claims the authorities are hiding actual facts, so there is got be another reason where the plane is.

I should also add that there had been reports of independent witnesses having seen a plane go very low over some houses on one of the Island in the indian Ocean and another lady returning from Mecca in a flight saw a plane submerged in shallow waters near Maldives , she saw this through her plane's window and alerted otyers but was dismissed that the object she saw could not possibly be a plane, thats is I suppose no one would believe a plane can land in shallow waters and possibly sink later on .

All these articles can be searched on google.
 
Mikefromlondon said:
there is a possibility that the plane flew towards West and then south, but changed its course towards right heading back towards West to mis Sri lankan radars and the maldives and US Base atr Diego Garcia and then tried to fly towards North heading for possibly nations like Pakistan or Iran but may have run out 0of fuel and may well be lying in the Arabian sea, other than this it may well have landed in some part of pakistan, who wouldn't know like they didn't know bin laden was living right in their army barracks back yard! :LOL:

One lady (Sarah Balc) whose husband worked for IBM, who was on that flight refuses to believe that her husband is dead and claims the authorities are hiding actual facts, so there is got be another reason where the plane is.

I should also add that there had been reports of independent witnesses having seen a plane go very low over some houses on one of the Island in the indian Ocean and another lady returning from Mecca in a flight saw a plane submerged in shallow waters near Maldives , she saw this through her plane's window and alerted otyers but was dismissed that the object she saw could not possibly be a plane, thats is I suppose no one would believe a plane can land in shallow waters and possibly sink later on .

All these articles can be searched on google.
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As can "we did not land on the moon" and "Elvis is still alive"
 
Aircraft manufactures should develope a black box system that can be jettisoned, and that will float to the surface in the event of a crash.

It would make the recovery of the data that much easier, there are sensors fitted in cars to trigger the airbags that operate in micro seconds, it should not be beyond the realms of possibility to do something similar with aircraft,

Wotan
 
wotan said:
Aircraft manufactures should develope a black box system that can be jettisoned, and that will float to the surface in the event of a crash.

It would make the recovery of the data that much easier, there are sensors fitted in cars to trigger the airbags that operate in micro seconds, it should not be beyond the realms of possibility to do something similar with aircraft,

Wotan
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So true, unfortunately it will be down to cost.... :rolleyes:

I am amazed that the crew has access to disable the transponder and other tracking devices. :eek:
 
Mikefromlondon said:
there is a possibility that the plane flew towards West and then south, but changed its course towards right heading back towards West to mis Sri lankan radars and the maldives and US Base atr Diego Garcia and then tried to fly towards North heading for possibly nations like Pakistan or Iran but may have run out 0of fuel and may well be lying in the Arabian sea, other than this it may well have landed in some part of pakistan, who wouldn't know like they didn't know bin laden was living right in their army barracks back yard! :LOL:

One lady (Sarah Balc) whose husband worked for IBM, who was on that flight refuses to believe that her husband is dead and claims the authorities are hiding actual facts, so there is got be another reason where the plane is.

I should also add that there had been reports of independent witnesses having seen a plane go very low over some houses on one of the Island in the indian Ocean and another lady returning from Mecca in a flight saw a plane submerged in shallow waters near Maldives , she saw this through her plane's window and alerted otyers but was dismissed that the object she saw could not possibly be a plane, thats is I suppose no one would believe a plane can land in shallow waters and possibly sink later on .

All these articles can be searched on google.
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It's not often I agree with MFL but on this occasion I think he's not a million miles off course, (no pun intended) we all have our own conclusions, I have said from the first week that the next time we see MH370 it will be full of HE and will be flown into a western soft target, something like a super liner full of, as would be seen by your average person living in squalor in Pakistan, rich westerners, christians..
 
Latest theory by a veteran air accident investigator is that the plane was purposefully depressurised, starving the passengers and crew of air.

The co-pilot may have been locked out of the cabin.

The pilot had an oxygen supply and would have been able to re-pressurise the plane later.

He then made a controlled ditching of the plane, which sank to the sea bed intact, leaving no floating debris.
 
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