Uneven porcelain waste outlet on toilet

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• 20 Apr 2014

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the toilet I bought from ebay has an uneven waste outlet - the porcelain is uneven. See pic.
i watched my plumber try many different connections on it and they all popped off or leaked.
When I run my fingers along the porcelain I can feel it is slightly uneven. I hoped a good quality seal would have solved this but the 5+ connectors my plumber tried did not work (although I'm not sure that his were good quality).
Are there any solutions to this, other than buying a new toilet
eg car radiators use hose clamps.
Could I grind the lips down on the porcelain / fill depressions with some kind of compound?
The toilet matches the sink and I can't afford £250 for another!
Any help greatly appreciated, thanks!

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• 20 Apr 2014

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Leaking I can understand, but popping off is another issue, indicating that the outlet may be tapered
Can you give us a photo of the connectors used?
I don't think a jubilee clip is the right solution here.
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• 20 Apr 2014

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Use this: http://www.plumbingsupplyservices.co.uk/acatalog/multikwik_pan_connectors.htm

And don't use silione grease, if it is taper, it will pop out.

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• 20 Apr 2014

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I think the 'bought from eBay' is the reason, it's rubbish, imported rubbish!!
When I think about the care & attention British pottery manufacturers put into their products & then you see all this rubbish coming into the country. Misshapen, poor glazing & as thin as egg shells. I had one WC last week that was so out of shape it was listing 20degs to Port!!

 

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sorry don't have any pics of the connectors the plumber was using but he tried 3-5 different types, standards, offsets, & a McAlpine i think.
Some would pop off (too small I think), some would stay on but then leak. he used the expensive grease on one but that didn't help.

the outlet does taper from 100mm to larger.

the external finish on the porcelain is nice - but yes, the internal is rubbish...which is where it really counts I guess

 

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here the actual unit:
http://www.bathrooms.com/toilets/cl...gclid=CKzlo6r16b0CFQcewwodHkAAhQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

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Use MKS2 mutliwik, it should fit and hold without grease.

Is the soil pipe through the wall? If yes, offer pan to soil pipe and fix pan to floor, that may hold it in and will not pop out cos soil pipe holding it back.

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• 20 Apr 2014

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many thanks for replies!

soil pipe is through floor so need 90 deg pipe / flex pipe

 

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• 20 Apr 2014

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zunit80 said:

many thanks for replies!

soil pipe is through floor so need 90 deg pipe / flex pipe

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Flexi pipe will be worse because there's no rigidity.

 

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• 21 Apr 2014

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WHERES THE PLUMBERS!!!

Easy fix if it is as bad as you say,

- push on a pan con that doesnt pop off
- Fill the gap between the WC spigot and the rim of the pan connector with PlumbersMate
- Have a big leak free poo to celebrate

OR

- Paint silicone smoothly around the spigot and allow to dry
- Use a pan connector that doesnt pop off

ITS ONLY PLUMBING PEOPLE NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!

 

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• 21 Apr 2014

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http://www.wickes.co.uk/110mm-Connector-for-Wall-Pans-WC-F21R/p/227040

Dont think this one will pop off

 

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MJGas said:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/110mm-Connector-for-Wall-Pans-WC-F21R/p/227040

Dont think this one will pop off

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bought this one but as the jubilee clip is tightened it slides off dammit!

 

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• 23 Apr 2014

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newgasinstaller said:

WHERES THE PLUMBERS!!!

Easy fix if it is as bad as you say,

- push on a pan con that doesnt pop off
- Fill the gap between the WC spigot and the rim of the pan connector with PlumbersMate
- Have a big leak free poo to celebrate

OR

- Paint silicone smoothly around the spigot and allow to dry
- Use a pan connector that doesnt pop off

ITS ONLY PLUMBING PEOPLE NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!

Click to expand...

 

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• 23 Apr 2014

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zunit80 said:

bought this one but as the jubilee clip is tightened it slides off dammit!

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Don't use silicone grease. Keep it dry and maybe will not slide out. Use a multikwik rigid bend pan connector and jamb some wood between Bend pan connector and wall to help stop it pop out.

Daniel.

 

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• 24 Apr 2014

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My advice for what it's worth; replace the WC with a quality British manufactured one, do it now or you may have a flood on your hands a few months down the line.