Will this car pass it's MOT?

grussell · 15 Jul 2014

I have been working on my previously Cat C Z3 for a while now and before I get it VIC checked and registered in my name I need to take it for it's first MOT since being Cat C to ensure it's in a roadworthy condition. Under the bonnet, everything is fine, all lights are working, brakes, steering, everything is good and I am confident it will pass. Just a little worried about the bodywork. Obviously I replaced the faulty panels and there's no sharp edges. Do you think it will pass it's MOT?

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footprints · 15 Jul 2014

My guess would be yes, as long as that door and bonnet open and close securely and as you say no sharp edges, assuming the head lights are not out of line as a result of the crunch.

Only one way to find out for sure though

Burnerman · 15 Jul 2014

Yep, as above. The tester does need to open the bonnet though, and it must lock shut.
John

grussell · 15 Jul 2014

There is a crack on the bumper though, it's not coming off however. Do bumper cracks affect the mot ?

Burnerman · 15 Jul 2014

If its showing a sharp edge and could impale a friendly pedestrian, then yes......but if its just cracked, no.
John

grussell · 15 Jul 2014

Ok thanks John.

Thanks for the million and one questions.

What kinds of things make cars Cat C? Is it just like panel damage etc.?

With my Z3 all those panels shown were badly damaged and the indicator light was hanging off but I replaced the wing and grill and the indicator light is intact now.

With cars as old as Z3s I thinh the availability of parts is difficult and thus makes it a Cat C when it needs new parts...

Burnerman · 15 Jul 2014

Category C means major damage but safely repairable, cat D is uneconomic for insurance purposes.
There's no problem with either of these, but of course your insurers need to be aware.
Be lucky with the mot!
John

Mursal · 16 Jul 2014

But do you not get it VIC checked first, to ensure the car is the actual car that has had the crash and is now repaired, not another using the originals identity?
Then get the V5 ...............
Then get the MOT?

We have a different system but always thought with UK registered cars, the VIC was the first step for cat C repairable's in getting them back on the road?

Agile · 16 Jul 2014

I also thought that Mural as well.

But I also thought that without an MOT you cannot drive it to the VIC inspection. Thus adding an extra expense unless you have a car trailer!

But then some of these things are counter intuitive!

alan333 · 16 Jul 2014

If the rules haven't changed then you need an MOT first to prove the car is roadworthy, then a VIC from VOSA to make sure it's not a ringer, then you can apply for a V5. IIRC you couldn't drive it to either place, since it's not currently a registered car - it needs trailered.

I've not kept up to date with it all but generally speaking Cat D used to be mainly light damage (and often older cars), and Cat C had more structural stuff. However I noticed over time that more and more Cat C's were appearing with light damage that would once have been graded Cat D. That set me to thinking... Is it to do with the expense of extra airbags etc, or maybe it's cos people were still "ringing" the older/easy ones? We'll never know I suppose.

grussell · 20 Jul 2014

According to DVLA website you gt the MOT first then you apply for the VIC. You need an MOTd car to drive to the VIC test and the driver needs to be insured. I don't know what that means entirely. I have comp cover on my Astra but doesn't cover any other cars?

alan333 · 20 Jul 2014

It sounds like my earlier info was guff, ie you can drive it to the VIC check after it's MOT'd right enough. The bit about the person being insured means the same as any other driver on the road, ie you must be insured to drive the car on the road. Bear in mind lots of folks can drive someone else's car under their own insurance policy (limited to 3rd party, but legal), but... AFAIK not a car belonging to you or your partner or spouse, and the vehicle needs to have it's own insurance policy on it. I'm sure I read that this is a bit of a grey area, but personally I'd either trailer it, or have insurance on it.

stuartturbo · 20 Jul 2014

Burnerman said:
Category C means major damage but safely repairable, cat D is uneconomic for insurance purposes.
There's no problem with either of these, but of course your insurers need to be aware.
Be lucky with the mot!
John

I was under the impression it was more a value thing
ie 2 cars same make model but one is 5 years old and one is 10yrs old both sustain the same damage but the older is cat C and the newer could be a cat D or Cat D and a repair

AlanE · 20 Jul 2014

alan333 said:
AFAIK not a car belonging to you or your partner or spouse, and the vehicle needs to have it's own insurance policy on it. I'm sure I read that this is a bit of a grey area, but personally I'd either trailer it, or have insurance on it.

Not a grey area just a misconception by some.

If you read your policy it normally clearly states you can drive another vehicle NOT owned by the policy holder.

The reasoning is simple. If a policyholder were permitted to also drive other vehicles owned by by the policyholder then there would be nothing to prevent you owning two cars, one a cheap banger and the other the most expensive, and fastest, one on the market.

You would be able to get insurance based the banger at next to nothing but only drive the fast one!

Also if it is not subject to a SORN notice it must be taxed, and once it is taxed it MUST be insured even if it remains unused on a private driveway.

Will this car pass it's MOT?

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