Boiler Flu Regulations?

realtek · 16 Dec 2014

Hi,

I have just had a gas man out to service my boiler and he said my vertical flu in the loft was not secured in the loft and also there were no self tapping screws all the way up the flue (only the brace going around each of the joints).

Is this a regulation and if so should this have been done or was I being charged for some work that was not immediately required?

He said if not, then my boiler work be 'At Risk' and he would have to turn it off.

From my perspective I would have said there was more risk in installing self tapping screws rather than leaving it alone like it has been for about 10 years.

Thanks

benny200 · 16 Dec 2014

The flue screws are to stop the flue coming apart when you pack away the Xmas decorations and chuck them into the loft. You can trust this guy (unless he only went up there to wee in your water tank )

realtek · 16 Dec 2014

benny200 said:
The flue screws are to stop the flue coming apart when you pack away the Xmas decorations and chuck them into the loft. You can trust this guy (unless he only went up there to wee in your water tank )

Thanks, Yes most likely he did, although I made him a cuppa just after

gas112 · 16 Dec 2014

Not all boiler flue systems require the joints to be self tapered it all depends what manufacturer asks for

muggles · 16 Dec 2014

gas112 said:
Not all boiler flue systems require the joints to be self tapered it all depends what manufacturer asks for

I think you'll find, however, that Gas Safe require it regardless of manufacturer, but let's not get into a debate about who overrules who

gas112 · 16 Dec 2014

Bullshite gassafe cannot over rule manufacturers .They do not have a testing house .Manufacturers have put there products through testing and there is reasons why some flues cannot be screwed .
Manufacturers instructions and gas regs and what overrules what is a different argument all together.

Show me any tb that backs your statement up ??

holty · 16 Dec 2014

No disrespect to the OP. But why question something that can be done in a no time at all. The amount of times i have to AR a vertical flue due to lack of a piece of wood and a bracket is beyond belief. The **** hits the fan when said flue comes apart due to lack of support. Regards screwing the flue joints. Its not advisable/advisable unless the manufacturer says so. End of.

realtek · 17 Dec 2014

holty said:
No disrespect to the OP. But why question something that can be done in a no time at all. The amount of times i have to AR a vertical flue due to lack of a piece of wood and a bracket is beyond belief. The s**t hits the fan when said flue comes apart due to lack of support. Regards screwing the flue joints. Its not advisable/advisable unless the manufacturer says so. End of.

The reason I questioned it was because the engineer from British Gas put me on the spot and said it needed to be done or he would put the boiler "At Risk" and switch it off and I needed to be charged £50 for them to do it. Bracked and Joints

Dan Robinson · 17 Dec 2014

Still no mention of the actual boiler

muggles · 17 Dec 2014

gas112 said:
Show me any tb that backs your statement up ??

There isn't one that I'm aware of, not that I read them religiously, but I know that the company I used to work for got picked up on it during a GS inspection a couple of years ago... The inspector said "you must always screw the flue joints, I'll have to fail you if it's not done" or words to that effect. I assumed from this that that was now GS's official line....

gas112 · 17 Dec 2014

Assumption in this industry is one of the biggest problems nearly as bad as gas safe inspectors and ACS instructors who dont know how to read regs etc properly and give out wrong information

Biggles.. · 17 Dec 2014

I guess here isn't the place but that's typical of GSR, rather than actually doing what they are paid to do which is enforce the regulations, you find they make their own up to suit their point of view, which also changes from inspector to inspector.....no different to LABC who seem to do the same regardless of the fact that the buildings regs say one thing yet they continually ask for different!

FiremanT · 17 Dec 2014

nrawlins said:
The reason I questioned it was because the engineer from British Gas put me on the spot and said it needed to be done or he would put the boiler "At Risk" and switch it off and I needed to be charged £50 for them to do it. Bracked and Joints

For £50 I would have let them crack on! Unless of course THEY fitted the boiler, in which case they wouldn't, in my experience, charge

kirkgas · 17 Dec 2014

muggles said:
gas112 said:

Not all boiler flue systems require the joints to be self tapered it all depends what manufacturer asks for

Click to expand...

I think you'll find, however, that Gas Safe require it regardless of manufacturer, but let's not get into a debate about who overrules who

Muggles, there isn't any debate,the manufacture over rules everyone on their own appliance

benny200 · 17 Dec 2014

As thrilling as the debate is

one thing matters more in the story than anything else. A fellow engineer saw the flue with his own eyes and decided that without intervention the installation could become dangerous.

If anyone reading this thread made the same judgement then I doubt they would defer to the manufacturers instructions which I'm sure we all know are written before the appliance has been through the rigours of a decade installed in somebody's home.

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