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If I have a standard old fashioned 60W 230V GLS light bulb, and supply it with a voltage lower than 230V, will it use:


a) more power than at 230V
b) less power than at 230V
c) it'll stay the same
 
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If I have a standard old fashioned 60W 230V GLS light bulb, and supply it with a voltage lower than 230V, will it use:
a) more power than at 230V
b) less power than at 230V
c) it'll stay the same
One can't be certain without knowing the voltage/ temperature relationship for the bulb/lamp (over the range of voltages of interest), but I'd be pretty surprised if the voltage reduction didn't 'win' (over resistance reduction) - so I think the answer will usually be (b) - but I may be wrong. Don't forget that, if resistance remained unchanged, power is proportional to E² (or V²), not E (or V).

Kind Regards, John,
 
If I have a standard old fashioned 60W 230V GLS light bulb, and supply it with a voltage lower than 230V, will it use:
a) more power than at 230V
b) less power than at 230V
c) it'll stay the same
One can't be certain without knowing the voltage/ temperature relationship for the bulb/lamp (over the range of voltages of interest), but I'd be pretty surprised if the voltage reduction didn't 'win' (over resistance reduction) - so I think the answer will usually be (b) - but I may be wrong. Don't forget that, if resistance remained unchanged, power is proportional to E² (or V²), not E (or V).

Kind Regards, John,

If the resistance dropped so much the power increased you'd have an unstable situation which would require a series ballast as in a fluorescent tube so the answer is (b).
 
I would also say b) uses less power the amount of light drops and the heat output drops so it must use less power.

I would expect the current also drops but not sure on that as cooler the element is the lower the resistance but still reasonable sure current drops as well.
 
For an incandescent lamp with a normal filament reducing voltage will reduce current and hence power will be reduced.

As current increases the temperature increases and as a result the resistance increases. Hence doubling the voltage will increase the current but not to twice the current.

The thermal inertia of the filament prevents instability.

One type of "lamp" is the barretter which as part of a circuit can produce a near constant current when the voltage varies.

More information here

http://www.r-type.org/exhib/aaa1070.htm
 
For an incandescent lamp with a normal filament reducing voltage will reduce current and hence power will be reduced.
Yes, in practice, I'm sure that must be the case, but ...
... As current increases the temperature increases and as a result the resistance increases. Hence doubling the voltage will increase the current but not to twice the current.
Indeed - and conversely, halving the voltage will decrease the current, but not to half the current, because of the reduction in resistance. Theoretically, if the temperature coefficient of resistance of the material were high enough, the current might not fall at all, or might even rise - but, as winston said, that would then result in an 'unstable' situation (essentially positive feedback). Whether any real-world material would/could do that, I don't know.

Kind Regards, John
 
I can't believe the question is even being asked! ;)
One might think so - but it's of note that the first response (albeit not a direct answer to the question) was actually wrong - and that there are a few "probably" qualifications to the correct answers! One suspects that there was probably "a reason" why RF asked the question!

Kind Regards, John
 
I thought the question was a follow on from the Electricity Monitors thread - now locked.


Also, if the power did not reduce with the voltage, what would happen when it was switched off?
 
Also, if the power did not reduce with the voltage, what would happen when it was switched off?
Quite - although that theoretically does not preclude the possibility that, over some range of voltages, something 'surprising' might happen. At the other extreme, if one progressively increased voltage, one would expect power to also progressively increase, but it would eventually fall to zero :)

Kind Regards, John
 

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