LED Lights in bathroom over shower
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Qualified no, competent i'd say I was fairly competent but know when to ask questions if i'm not sure about something hence posting in here for some expert advice.
I seem to have opened a tin of worms with some of you though!
To clarify things then - If I put a sealed unit in above the shower can the LED be on mains voltage
OR
do I need to put a low voltage light in there which is on a driver?
Thank you
If the manufacturer states it is suitable for the location.
You do not have to have a 12V one but 240V IS low voltage.
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HIGH voltage:
Not because you can't reach it.
Not because you can't reach it.
This terminological confusion (even in a thread which has been discussing the issue) does worry me.
Kind Regards, John
I agree but until the manufacturers change their (actually wrong) labelling it is bound to persist.
There seems to be something wrong with those in charge (lately?).
Especially the fire-resistant CU fiasco.
The IET forum is discussing such things and some have contemplated using the European regulations, where plastic is still allowed, as a departure.
There seems to be something wrong with those in charge (lately?).
Especially the fire-resistant CU fiasco.
The IET forum is discussing such things and some have contemplated using the European regulations, where plastic is still allowed, as a departure.
Once again.
Mains voltage is LOW VOLTAGE.
Read this tin of worms you are referring to.
Its only one light, splash out on a nice 240volt light that states on the packaging that it is suitable for a shower then you cant go wrong.
not only will it be electrically safer it will also seal better and reduce damp etc entering the ceiling void
not only will it be electrically safer it will also seal better and reduce damp etc entering the ceiling void
As I've said, I really don't think the problem would go away (at least, not for a very very long time) even if every manufacturer and retailer labelled things 'correctly' (this issue only really relates to ELV things - I can't recall a consumer 230V/240V item ever having been labelled "low voltage").
I believe there is a very strongly entrenched belief on the part of a high proportion of the buyers/users of electrical items that "low voltage" refers to what you would call 'ELV' (maybe not even including voltages in the higher part of the ELV range) - and that nothing is likely to change that in a big way for a very long time.
I believe that change would/will be slow/difficult because the 'correct' terminology just isn't rational or intuitive for the general public. They are only likely to ever encounter electrical voltages between, say, 1.2V and 240V - so why should they regard it as reasonable to describe 240V as 'low voltage'? As I've said, LV is 'low' only for those in the electrical supply industry and a few other industrial settings.
Kind Regards, John
You used to see HIGH voltage stickers on 440 volt stuff.
Was 440 ever High voltage , i dont remember
Was 440 ever High voltage , i dont remember
I don't know. However, unless I'm dreaming it, wasn't there a time when there were "DANGER - HIGH VOLTAGE" labels and stickers all over 240V things? (which, to the general public, would seem reasonable, both then and now).
Kind Regards, John
You may be right, as most of my works 3 phase its hard to recall what they were stuck on, they were also usually RED
Well the oldest regs book I have 1976 states a red and white danger high voltage label for voltages exceeding Low voltages, low voltage defined as 50 volt to 1000volt
Fair enough. I was actually thinking more about warning labels on consumer products, rather than what the regs required in installations.
Kind Regards, John
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