test a capacitor

uf is mfd ... micro farad ... ( think its lower case)
No it is not uF, it is µF. (Greek letter µ).
True - but it is "microfarad", and is is a lower case Greek μ , so rocky got 2 out of 3 right - and, of course, it is also very commonly written as "uF" in situations when Greek letters are not available (and many situations when such a letter is available) - so I'm inclined to give him 2½ out of 3 :)

Kind Regards, John
 
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Hi Rocky and Johnw2
I checked the the switch and plug in all directions ,it looked OK
If I check the resistance on the capacitor as suggested by John W2
I presume this would be done live,If the machine trips on start up this would be difficult.
Cheers Ian
 
Two points may meter although it has a capacitance scale needs a 10 volt transformer to use it without that it's near to useless.

Second point tests for earth leakage with a multimeter may show when down to earth but will not show when not down to earth. May seem daft but with a really big fault the meter will highlight it but the 9 volt used in a standard multimeter is not high enough to highlight many faults.

I looked at an air compressor for my friend and multimeter showed no fault but since the fuse ruptured there was clearly a fault. Once I tried with an insulation tester then straight away I could see it was down to earth. 500 volt used with insulation tester will find faults which the 9 volt of multimeter will miss.
 
If I check the resistance on the capacitor as suggested by John W2 ... I presume this would be done live,If the machine trips on start up this would be difficult.
No, No - definitely not live. Indeed, ideally with one end of the capacitor disconnected (I was rather thinking that you had completely removed it).

Kind Regards, John
 
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... tests for earth leakage with a multimeter may show when down to earth but will not show when not down to earth. May seem daft but with a really big fault the meter will highlight it but the 9 volt used in a standard multimeter is not high enough to highlight many faults. ... 500 volt used with insulation tester will find faults which the 9 volt of multimeter will miss.
All very true - but, as I said ...
... It will initially indicate very low resistance, as the cap charges up, but should then gradually rise. If it remains low for a long time, even with the low voltage a multimeter, then he's very probably got a dead capacitor.
.. IF there is a persistent low resistance even when tested with the low voltage multimeter, then there's almost certainly a problem with the capacitor. If the multimeter doesn't indicate that, then one has not learned a lot, and therefore has to move on to other testing. However, it's worth a try (particularly if a multimeter is all one has), because it might provide an answer.

Kind Regards, John
 
rocky got 2 out of 3 right - and, of course, it is also very commonly written as "uF" in situations when Greek letters are not available (and many situations when such a letter is available) - so I'm inclined to give him 2½ out of 3 :)
I'm afraid I'm not. u/μ/micro - any points there are negated by him saying that microfarad can also be written mfd.
Hmmmm. Rocky only mentioned MFD because that was what was written on the OP's capacitor - and it's still an abbeviation which is not uncommonly used:
2-Pieces-Electric-Motor-Start-Capacitor-AC-250V-100-MFD-uF.jpg


Kind Regards, John
 
Sadly in the context of capacitors using "m" to mean micro is an established practice, albiet one that should be discouraged because of the obvious potential for confusion (did you mean microfarads or millifarads).
 
Sadly in the context of capacitors using "m" to mean micro is an established practice, albiet one that should be discouraged because of the obvious potential for confusion (did you mean microfarads or millifarads).
Yes, that's always been the case - and I suppose that, at least traditionally, it was not particularly ambiguous because, until the last decade or three, capacitors in the millifarad range were very rarely, if ever, seen. Indeed, even today, one very rarely sees 'millifarad' used - very large capacitors (still not that common) are usually still described with μF values - e.g. 47,000 μF.

I presume that, exceptionally, the greek letter is (or should be) used for micro, since 'm' is the only non-unique initial Latin letter for any of the common unit multipliers - i.e. f, p, n, (not micro), (not milli), h, c, k, M, G, T are all unique - leaving only micro and milli that need to be distinguished. deca- and deci- are also potentially ambiguous, but the former is rarely used and, IIRC, if used is abbreviated to "da"

Kind Regards, John
 
Isn't it that the MFD (using upper case and the D) printed on the capacitor means 'micro' and for 'nano' MMFD is used.
No. I haven't seen MMFD (or mmfd) used for a long time, but it actually means/meant "micro micro farad" - i.e. pico-farad, not nano-farad.
It doesn't seem beyond the wit of man to use the correct terminology.
I guess that depends upon what you regard as 'correct' terminology. This document says:
...Short forms for micromicrofarad include pF, mmfd, MMFD, MMF, uuF (note the "u", not "μ") and PF....
.

Kind Regards, John
 
Hi back from the workshop
I tried testing the capacitor with the multi metre set to 2M ohms
it started out reading 139 after 3mins it went to 1000.
I found a capacitance metre on e bay for about a tenner it goes up to 20000
farads, any use?
Cheers Ian
 
I tried testing the capacitor with the multi metre set to 2M ohms .. it started out reading 139 after 3mins it went to 1000.
I think you need to explain to us what those numbers actually mean - i.e. what does "1000" mean when the meter is set to 20M ohms? Does it perhaps mean 1M ohms? Do you have the meter's instructions?
I found a capacitance metre on e bay for about a tenner it goes up to 20000 farads, any use?
I find it hard to believe that it's really 20,000 Farads - even 20,000 microfarads (millionths of a Farad) would be a very large capacitor - 200 times larger than yours. Whatever, I personally don't see that you would gain much by acquiring a means of measuring the capacitance of your capacitor, but others may disagree. A a replacement cap would probably cost you less than even that cheap meter (even if it works at that price!).

Kind Regards, John
 

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