How long did it take him to complete the job and did you receive a certificate on completion?
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How long did it take him to complete the job and did you receive a certificate on completion?
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You don't pay VAT multiple times, its specifically designed so you dont, the VAT on the electrical contractor bill will be offset by the contractor agaisnt the VAT you pay on the whole job. Same wll happen with all other things main contractors buy in, bricks, digger hire, skips, etc
Thats assuming elec contracting is vat reg'd
Adam 151- I assumed that the self employed sparky would bill the builder say £2500 plus vat = £3000 total. The builder then bills me £3000 plus vat = £3600 so I pay £1100 Vat on this job. Clearly this is not something I usually deal with so any help explaining this would be appreciated.
Assuming the builder is doing this. He may not be.
Well, not really paying two lots but only because the builder is not doing it right and ripping you off.
He will be able to claim back the £500 vat the electrician is charging him but will have to give the vat man £600.
He may as well give you the electrician's bill (2500 + 500) and charge you an introduction fee of £500 plus vat of £100 so you would 'only' be paying £600 vat. This way he will not claim back the £500 and give the vat man only £100. The electrician will give the vat man £500.
You will note everyone ends up paying or receiving the same amount. The premise of vat.
The only difference is you being charged £600 for nothing,
All subject, of course, to incomes and expenditures.
Only you will have no income.
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I don't think there is much you can do apart from complain if it is too expensive.
IF it is - to be fair, it has become a bit more complicated than your first post.
That's the way it works with subbies.
If he was directly employing the electrician you would still have to pay the same.
IF it is - to be fair, it has become a bit more complicated than your first post.
That's the way it works with subbies.
If he was directly employing the electrician you would still have to pay the same.
Took just over 7 days, he worked all day hard on his own. Yes got all certificates.
That sound more like it mouk.
One bloke, a complete rewire, 1st & 2nd fix complete with certs in 7 days.
That's quick.
I'm interested, did he thread all the cables through joists 50mm down?
I've just done a rewire where I've done just that, on my own. Takes bloody ages.
Years ago, it was a case of utilising any notches left by previous sparks, heating installs, whatever. I find threading cables through joists puts a lot of extra time on a job. Probably spent 6 days on 1st fix alone. Don't know how one guy can do the lot in that time ... and this house in empty!
One bloke, a complete rewire, 1st & 2nd fix complete with certs in 7 days.
That's quick.
I'm interested, did he thread all the cables through joists 50mm down?
I've just done a rewire where I've done just that, on my own. Takes bloody ages.
Years ago, it was a case of utilising any notches left by previous sparks, heating installs, whatever. I find threading cables through joists puts a lot of extra time on a job. Probably spent 6 days on 1st fix alone. Don't know how one guy can do the lot in that time ... and this house in empty!
Yep all cables are threaded through the joists at the correct depth. I seen him do allot of it as i took a few days off.
Like i said he hasnt plastered the chases im going to do that bit.
If anyone in manchester are wants his details i can pass them on
Like i said he hasnt plastered the chases im going to do that bit.
If anyone in manchester are wants his details i can pass them on
I must say that I sometimes feel a bit nervous when I see electricians (or plumbers), in the name of compliance with current regs, drilling 'yet more holes' in joists that are already extensively littered with notches and holes (possibly in structurally inappropriate places). Is there any guidance about this, in terms of structural safety?
Kind Regards, John
This might help
The actual limits are detailed in BR Part A and the OSG
The actual limits are detailed in BR Part A and the OSG
It doesn't help me all that much - I am aware of the current regulations/ requirements. What I'm more interested in is whether there are any regulations, or even just guidelines, clarifying what is permitted (or 'wise') in terms of new holes/notches, if the joist in question is already littered with holes and notches which are not in the 'shaded areas' in which they would now be permitted.
It seems to me that, pragmatically, the interests of the structural integrity of the joist would probably best be served by using existing holes/notches, even if they are in places which are not now compliant, rather than create 'yet more holes' in joists which, by modern standards, might already be regarded as structurally compromised.
Kind Regards, John
I absolutely agree. I will always use existing notches (adding safe plates), holes etc rather than weaken further the integrity of the joist.
I'm glad you agree - that's certainly what I would do, and would want to be done, in my own home. However, I seem to recall that when this has been discussed in the past, some electricians have said that, "to cover themselves", they would prefer to drill more holes (and presumably thereby weaken the structure further) than to put new cables through holes that were in (structurally) non-permitted positions.
Kind Regards, John
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