BA Las Vegas - Engine fire

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"...Status: Preliminary
Date: Tuesday 8 September 2015
Time: 16:12
Type:
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Boeing 777-236ER
Operator: British Airways
Registration: G-VIIO
C/n / msn: 29320/182
First flight: 1999-01-18 (16 years 8 months)
Engines: 2 General Electric GE90-85B
..."

Rolls-Royce - Not involved. Boeing 777 Plenty of 'em about - Getting long in the tooth ?

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It was said on the radio this evening that BA staff were complaining because passengers were retrieving their on board luggage even though they had been told not to.
So given the chance, would you collect as many belongings as possible in that situation? I can understand that if your plane ditched in the sea and was sinking that it would be best to just get off asap but with an engine on fire would there be time to get your wallets, cards, passports, car keys, straw donkeys etc?
 
squeaky said:
It was said on the radio this evening that BA staff were complaining because passengers were retrieving their on board luggage even though they had been told not to.
So given the chance, would you collect as many belongings as possible in that situation?
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I'd certainly want my passport, bearing in mind the state of things these days.

Incidentally, it occurs to me to ask if the engine on fire was on the left, why use the left-hand evacuation slides; certainly the front left one? If the fire were to spread to the wing fuel tanks, anyone leaving on the left would likely be blown sky high.
 
squeaky said:
but with an engine on fire would there be time to get your wallets, cards, passports, car keys, straw donkeys etc?
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You might be lucky and get out in time. But if the person in front of you in the queue for the evac slide takes too long to get their bits and pieces then you might not make it out in time.

( my experience is one evac for real and 4 training evacs at Cranfield )
 
bernardgreen said:
squeaky said:
but with an engine on fire would there be time to get your wallets, cards, passports, car keys, straw donkeys etc?
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You might be lucky and get out in time. But if the person in front of you in the queue for the evac slide takes too long to get their bits and pieces then you might not make it out in time.

( my experience is one evac for real and 4 training evacs at Cranfield )
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True. I am always puzzled by how long it takes people to get settled in their seats so I suppose it would be worse in an emergency. I think you are still allowed to keep a small bag under your seat so it would make sense to keep your important stuff there. Pringles and the like.
 
It was the 30th anniversary of the Manchester plane fire a few weeks ago.
From what I remember about that those poor b*ggers didn't have much time to evacuate.
Though I think there's been a lot of improvement since regarding fireproofing on planes.
 
squeaky said:
It was said on the radio this evening that BA staff were complaining because passengers were retrieving their on board luggage even though they had been told not to.
So given the chance, would you collect as many belongings as possible in that situation? I can understand that if your plane ditched in the sea and was sinking that it would be best to just get off asap but with an engine on fire would there be time to get your wallets, cards, passports, car keys, straw donkeys etc?
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People generally are stupid, and under pressure, their stupid side is brought to the fore.
Worrying thing is, given the confinement of things such as commercial planes, one lackwit could seal the fate of dozens.
 
sooey said:
It was the 30th anniversary of the Manchester plane fire a few weeks ago.
From what I remember about that those poor b*ggers didn't have much time to evacuate.
Though I think there's been a lot of improvement since regarding fireproofing on planes.
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The great loss of life in the Manchester fire was down to pilot error, not appreciating the wind direction when he brought the aircraft to a stand still, the wind direction was blowing the flames towards the aircraft making some of the emergency chutes unusable, the evacuation was also prolonged by a lengthy engine shut down procedure.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I feel the pilot would have been better keeping the aircraft moving towards the emergency services.

Wotan
 
Brigadier said:
squeaky said:
It was said on the radio this evening that BA staff were complaining because passengers were retrieving their on board luggage even though they had been told not to.
So given the chance, would you collect as many belongings as possible in that situation? I can understand that if your plane ditched in the sea and was sinking that it would be best to just get off asap but with an engine on fire would there be time to get your wallets, cards, passports, car keys, straw donkeys etc?
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People generally are stupid, and under pressure, their stupid side is brought to the fore.
Worrying thing is, given the confinement of things such as commercial planes, one lackwit could seal the fate of dozens.
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In the past I have been on a few coach tours abroad with mainly 'older' passengers on board. No problem until the coach makes a 30 minute stop for refreshments and toilets. Often, there would be one person standing in the aisle trying to decide which colour jumper to wear and generally holding things up. So by the time you got to the coffee queue, you were at the back behind all the other coach loads leaving five minutes to gulp your drink down.

That in itself is quite stupid although with no dire consequences but I often wonder if these people are the same in an emergency. It's difficult getting off a plane as it is. I wonder if passengers would still let others out of their seats to go before them? Having said that, I would still rather take my passport. money and car keys because once you are off the plane you are left to fend for yourself.
 
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