Pumped shower problem

I hate showers and never get involved with them,electric,gravity,pumped,thermostatic,mixer,concealed,shower trays,wastes,doors,all a pain in the f*****g arse,just glad there's keen plumbers like you,thank you
 
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Reading your OP again, the behaivour of - When it runs fine, turn off pump and it continues to flow fine under gravity but then leave it for a while and then it's back to a trickle suggests air is being introduced into the feeds over time. Are the feeds dedicated to the pump? Is the hot flanged? That coupled with pipework going into negative head areas will all exacerbate that effect. If it isn't a LP shower too then the flow through the check valves and cartridges slows it beyond activation, that's clear by the trickle out of the shower head. Does flow increase at all if you drop the shower head?

Realistically the fixes are, remove the check valves and see if it flows enough, could try air vents but ideally you would want to fix the feeds if air is an issue IMO, could fit a manual activation switch and finally most expensive is to change the pump to universal.
Shower feeds are decaicted supply's, cws and separate feed off hot tank.

Shower is a fixed head.

Gonna check nrvs and poss fit air vents and see what that does.

Thanks everyone for the advice.
 
Ok I've been back Friday and fitted air vents got the shower up and running working fine pump,on and off.

I recorded a vide here..

Shower is a low pressure shower here. http://catalogue.frontlinebathrooms...dian-concealed-thermostatic-shower-valve.html

Left all working good, got message sat night, not working again.

We can't afford £400 odd on a pump we shouldn't need. I specced the pump as the tank is high enough not to need and have installed plenty of showers like this with no problems.

....?
 
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Your shower requires minimum 0.2 bar to operate it, do you have 2 metres between the shower head and the bottom of the cold water tank/cistern/container ?
 
Have you removed the non return valves they will be located in the inlet fittings or in the inlets of the shower valve if you haven't removed them you have got no chance of it working.
 
Your shower requires minimum 0.2 bar to operate it, do you have 2 metres between the shower head and the bottom of the cold water tank/cistern/container ?
Ermm... No about a meter and a bit at a guess.

The video shows flow without the pump when I left.
 
Have you removed the non return valves they will be located in the inlet fittings or in the inlets of the shower valve if you haven't removed them you have got no chance of it working.
No not yet, the cover plate has been siliconed on and will be difficult to remove. But an option I will have to try.
 
It's got to be the pipework then, somewhere it's either going negative or air is being caught somewhere and it then can't get the flow at the showerhead to start the pump. You do initially get enough head so it can't be the check valves or you wouldn't get any flow at all, all of the time.
It's back to a dribble?
If trying a negative pump isn't an financial option then I would try bypassing the flow switch and running it manually just to test if it runs fine every time, as said in an earlier post ;) If it then runs without issue then it has to be a flow issue and a universal pump may be your only option or a re-pipe.
 
Ok, so I've been back and redone the pipe work, it's not pretty and I'm not proud but I did what I needed to do in a short space of time. Put two auto vents in loft to shower.

Hopefully this will improve things, time will tell.

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Fingers crossed.

Looks like a monsoon? Have the inlets been reduced to 15mm before increasing to 22mm at the flexi's and reduced again to 15mm after the outlets?

Check the MI, if it's all run in 15mm then that could be causing you problems.
 

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