Rented property - no room thermostat

David937 · 8 Sep 2016

The RGI who came agreed that the current setup is wasteful but said the regulations wouldn't apply as it's an existing system. I believe this is wrong because the requirement for a boiler interlock still applies even if just the boiler is replaced. Unless I'm mistaken?

Still, he will send quote for a stat to the landlord...who will 100% not get the work done since he's going to be told that it's not a necessity.

I've given up on this now, it's hard work dealing with idiots. I'll end up sorting something out myself.

Bosswhite · 8 Sep 2016

Is it part of your tenancy agreement that you can interfere and alter equipment without permission from the Landlord ?

Agile · 8 Sep 2016

No of course it is not.

But the landlord is expected to provide heating which is reasonably efficient in line with current recommendations.

Of course he will not because he is a mean landlord.

No one else will assist so the only solution is for David to fit a stat himself.

Bosswhite · 8 Sep 2016

The landlord has provided heating which is reasonably efficient, albeit not up to current standards, the RGI did not state the system is dangerous in any way and is acceptable, the OP would have to prove that the heating will not on any occasion meet minimum heating standards and would be a danger to health.

For the OP to take it upon themselves and alter the system without the Landlords permission is breaking the Tenancy agreement, which could result in Court Action.
(and he calls other people idiots )

David937 · 8 Sep 2016

No one said I won't be taking permission from the landlord or physically carrying out the work myself. There's been a couple of other things in the house which we weren't happy with and the landlord was happy to let us sort these out ourself. I'm not going to make any further comments on this as it's just pointless.

Ta

Agile · 8 Sep 2016

Bosswhite said:
The landlord has provided heating which is reasonably efficient, albeit not up to current standards, the RGI did not state the system is dangerous in any way and is acceptable, the OP would have to prove that the heating will not on any occasion meet minimum heating standards and would be a danger to health.

If the tenant just left the boiler on 24/7 all year long, then I would expect the fuel bill could be £200-£300 extra.

I don't class that as reasonably efficient when it would be an extra 20% on the costs.

I went to one where there was no room stat. But the boiler was fitted about 2.5 m above floor level in the stairwell so out of reach of the tenants. DP knows them!

DP · 8 Sep 2016

Agile said:
room stat. But the boiler was fitted about 2.5 m above floor level in the stairwell so out of reach of the tenants. D

Tony you have previously made similar comments. Take it you have solid proof. The person/ party you refer to, takes snide comments like this very seriously. I can pass your details to the owner and let him read what you are saying. Would you like that? If your comment are without foundation, you will not be able to do the disappearing act you are famous for in DIYnot plumbing section. You forget this is an open forum and also if you have no proof, that could be taken as slander

If you do not edit your post accordingly, I will have a word with the owner

ianmcd · 8 Sep 2016

DP said:
Tony you have previously made similar comments. Take it you have solid proof. The person/ party you refer to, takes snide comments like this very seriously. I can pass your details to the owner and let him read what you are saying. Would you like that? If your comment are without foundation, you will not be able to do the disappearing act you are famous for in DIYnot plumbing section. You forget this is an open forum and also if you have no proof, that could be taken as slander

If you do not edit your post accordingly, I will have a word with the owner

Bloomin heck Dan now you tell me , when I have been filling in Benchmarks and it asks if room thermostat fitted I have just been putting no cust knows DP so not required

DP · 9 Sep 2016

Ian, Tony is becoming a laughing stock in these pages.
What relevance is it of his that a boiler is fitted in the stairwell (I attended one that was fitted close to the ceiling in Park Circus). If a customer wanted a boiler fitted at point X, so be it- what concern is it of Tony A. The more he tries to show credibility, more he becomes a comic figure.

I would love to check out Tony's work. I am of the opinion a person who is critical of others work, is deflecting attention from his own poor performance

Bosswhite · 9 Sep 2016

Agile said:
If the tenant just left the boiler on 24/7 all year long, then I would expect the fuel bill could be £200-£300 extra.

I don't class that as reasonably efficient when it would be an extra 20% on the costs.

I went to one installed by a firm in Maida Vale where there was no room stat. But the boiler was fitted about 2.5 m above floor level in the stairwell so out of reach of the tenants. DP knows them!

The landlord is not paying the fuel bill, so why should he care about the efficiency of the fuel bill ?

McCombi · 9 Sep 2016

Correct me if wrong, but does part L not say "recommended minimum requirements" when relating to room thermostats etc?

Or does it say you "must" have the interlocks?

AGAS · 9 Sep 2016

FFS why don't you fit one yourself, is it wise to fall out with your landlord over a room stat oh and by the way when is your contract up for renewal

Newboy · 9 Sep 2016

McCombi said:
Correct me if wrong, but does part L not say "recommended minimum requirements" when relating to room thermostats etc?

Or does it say you "must" have the interlocks?

Page 22 section 1 - http://www.honeywelluk.com/documents/All/pdf/Domestic Heating Compliance Guide.pdf

Agile · 10 Sep 2016

Well that's only what we already know that ( page 22 Table 2 ) there should always be a boiler interlock and TRVs alone are not sufficient.

ianmcd · 11 Sep 2016

Agile said:
Well that's only what we already know that ( page 22 Table 2 ) there should always be a boiler interlock and TRVs alone are not sufficient.

And where does it say that the boiler interlock has to be a room thermostat ?

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