Help - How can I hide my boiler?

DP · 5 Mar 2017

Razor900 said:
Feck knows why they didn't run the flow and return up through the jig. Would've been dead easy to box in then.

You can get lots of pipes behind if you can bend

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Razor, what makes you think the plastic cowboys will know how to use that alien yellow tool in your picture

Might get the 4amp battery for my pipe cutter

DaveHerns · 5 Mar 2017

Get the installer back and tell him to tidy it all up. You get the impression he threw the boiler in and just didn't care.

Agile · 5 Mar 2017

I was wondering if it was the first boiler he had ever fitted!

Could you take a photo of the flue where it exits outside?

Tony

Dan Robinson · 5 Mar 2017

Considering the overall depth of the schitboxes, it might just be enough for the clearance.

Certainly not a great install.

Which? Should be printed on absorbant paper and is certainly not impartial.

woogas · 5 Mar 2017

Agile said:
I was wondering if it was the first boiler he had ever fitted!

Could you take a photo of the flue where it exits outside?

Tony

Definitely looks like the flue is going at angle through wall and even nearer to window.

Pic from outside or another straight on from inside would be interesting.

securespark · 5 Mar 2017

[sarcasm]Now that's a good example of a really helpful post.[/sarcasm]

The question was "Why are they a no-no?"

The answer is not:

woodbine said:
Good boy. Go with the crowd. Suppose you believe that Which are totally impartial, just like they were in the good old days.

Mikefromlondon · 5 Mar 2017

When I replaced WAH at a rented house and replaced by wet CH and new rads, the Heating Engineer's aftermath is self explaining, need I say I was not highly impressed!

This is how the pipes were laid crossing over one another and all over without any systematic approach. Ref to picture above.

This little cavity is used by tenants for placing kitchen bin, the side panel has been removed, but this is where they tapped into gas connection that was already in the wall previously used for gas oven and cooker, but note how far the gas pipe has been laid which would clash with bin, and possibly get damaged by careless tenants.
the Heating engineer team of 3 did the whole installation and a new boiler in 1.5 days and I parted with £3,500.00 for this mess, For the price I cannot complain. But if I was registered to do the job, I would have done a lot better than this for the same price.

Now Showing tidied up plumbing.

Mikefromlondon · 5 Mar 2017

You can use UPVC Window sills to make pipe covers as I did at another property, this material is very versatile, it is widely used in building sector both internally and externally, so i cannot see any issues, most double glazing is now carried out in UPVC,

here I used sections screwed and glued together to form a self supporting cover that can be slid out when boiler needs servicing without having him to spend time to unscrew. and it looks much neater than wooden boxes that need sealants on edges, this does not.

Box in position under the boiler, just resting by itself, no screws needed.

Box slid out, exposing all pipes and underside of boiler.

Showing how simple it is to use small wood screws and a bit of PVC glue to make a rigid body and using side brackets for strength. all from this window sill material or flat boards.

Side view

Being pushed back under.

snes · 5 Mar 2017

Hey, Mike, you've got hidden talents!

The boy dun good....

noseall · 5 Mar 2017

Its hilarious (and typical) how plumbers make a fuss about an untidy boiler flue but couldn't give a rats ass about the fact that it might be undermining a structural lintel. These same plumbers don't mind weakening joists or destroying masonry with deep chases no doubt.

Dan Robinson · 5 Mar 2017

Mikefromlondon said:
When I replaced WAH at a rented house and replaced by wet CH and new rads, the Heating Engineer's aftermath is self explaining

You were singing his praises at one point.

Mikefromlondon said:
Now Showing tidied up plumbing.

Shall we point out the faults in the ensuing pictures?

transam · 5 Mar 2017

noseall said:
Its hilarious (and typical) how plumbers make a fuss about an untidy boiler flue but couldn't give a rats ass about the fact that it might be undermining a structural lintel. These same plumbers don't mind weakening joists or destroying masonry with deep chases no doubt.

Appreciate the input noseall but

These are complicated subjects & as such perhaps u may be best advised not to comment or get involved

gasbanni · 5 Mar 2017

Worcester splosh are renowned for thero

securespark said:
[sarcasm]Now that's a good example of a really helpful post.[/sarcasm]

The question was "Why are they a no-no?"

The answer is not:

You asked why Worcester bosch are a no-no, actually I exclaimed oh no ! Here's why .........
They are notorious for spraying out fine jets of water from the plastic hydro blocs. The large black injection mouldings become " porous " that's how people describe it. What happens is that from a solid part of the plastic moulding and not on a mould line you can see several fine ( finer than a human hair ) jets of water actually shooting out of the solid plastic. They're that fine sometimes you can only see them when you use a bright LED torch on them. Boiler parts places stock loads of these blocks. These hydro block used to be brass, on some boilers they still use brass much much better. It's not only Worcester that use plastic now other manufacturers have gone down the same route to save money. A little thing I do is when I go to get parts I ask whose parts are you selling most of ?? It helps to identify whose boilers break down the most. Worcester are usually at the top of the list. A gas safe inspectors comments about Worcester " They're living on a reputation they got twenty years ago." In other words they're prone to leaking because of the choice of a material thats not up to the job. This why I don't fit them and the ridiculous design aspect regarding accessibility to repair some models of their boilers. Salus it may have changed but I stopped fitting them because customers couldn't work out how to program them....It may have changed but got sick of having to go back and fit something a customer could use.

Dan Robinson · 5 Mar 2017

gasbanni said:
Worcester splosh are renowned for thero

You asked why Worcester bosch are a no-no, actually I exclaimed oh no ! Here's why .........
They are notorious for spraying out fine jets of water from the plastic hydro blocs. The large black injection mouldings become " porous " that's how people describe it. What happens is that from a solid part of the plastic moulding and not on a mould line you can see several fine ( finer than a human hair ) jets of water actually shooting out of the solid plastic. They're that fine sometimes you can only see them when you use a bright LED torch on them. Boiler parts places stock loads of these blocks. These hydro block used to be brass, on some boilers they still use brass much much better. It's not only Worcester that use plastic now other manufacturers have gone down the same route to save money. A little thing I do is when I go to get parts I ask whose parts are you selling most of ?? It helps to identify whose boilers break down the most. Worcester are usually at the top of the list. A gas safe inspectors comments about Worcester " They're living on a reputation they got twenty years ago." In other words they're prone to leaking because of the choice of a material thats not up to the job. This why I don't fit them and the ridiculous design aspect regarding accessibility to repair some models of their boilers. Salus it may have changed but I stopped fitting them because customers couldn't work out how to program them....It may have changed but got sick of having to go back and fit something a customer could use.

Funny you should say that - a customer of mine with 2 Atmos boilers and a brace of Honeywell stats has just moved into a place with a new Wooshitter and a Wave controller. I have been asked to go in and remove the Wave because it "doesn't do what its supposed to do".

Chap is in for a shock when he see's the work that's going to be needed to maintain his new POS over the Atmos' we fitted in his old place some 11 years ago.

DaveHerns · 5 Mar 2017

Is the flue in Mike from London's £3500 installation correct apart from being unsightly?

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