Oven stops DURING cooking.

Note it says "law" on it.... As you've already been told.
 

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how sweet, a copy of an anonymous webpage. With no reference to authoritative sources.

Any fool can compose a webpage.

I'm sure you don't believe everything you read on the 'net.

Do you?

Have you been able to find a law yet, that prohibits a householder from mending his own cooker in his own house?
 
It's not anonymous, it is a PDF issued by the gas safe register, and easily found by using the search term at the top.
 
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so it's from a trade organisation for professional gasmen.


Have you been able to find a law yet, that prohibits a householder from mending his own cooker in his own house?
 
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OK, for the record it is an oven fitted onto a narrowboat with 240v hookup - the gas laws are probabay the same as houses whatever they be. I have a fully qualified Corgi engineer next door who fitted my gas when I bought and fitted the boat ( he also tests my gas yearly to approve my gas safety certificate). The fan has no effect on the gas burner as it is above the oven to cool the electrics and not 'in' the oven as most 'fan cooled' ovens appear to be. I'm happy to remove the fan or get him to do that but it more of a case of why it stops - the oven still works until 20 mins when the fan stops so it is sensor/heat/cutout related rather than the fan, unless fans themselves can overheat in which case I will get a new fan and have my neighbour fit it - just need to know if that is where I need to spend my money or get someone out to look at another component???
 
so it's from a trade organisation for professional gasmen.


Have you been able to find a law yet, that prohibits a householder from mending his own cooker in his own house?
...Yawn, you are wrong, get over it Jon.
 
OK, for the record it is an oven fitted onto a narrowboat with 240v hookup - the gas laws are probabay the same as houses whatever they be. I have a fully qualified Corgi engineer next door who fitted my gas when I bought and fitted the boat ( he also tests my gas yearly to approve my gas safety certificate). The fan has no effect on the gas burner as it is above the oven to cool the electrics and not 'in' the oven as most 'fan cooled' ovens appear to be. I'm happy to remove the fan or get him to do that but it more of a case of why it stops - the oven still works until 20 mins when the fan stops so it is sensor/heat/cutout related rather than the fan, unless fans themselves can overheat in which case I will get a new fan and have my neighbour fit it - just need to know if that is where I need to spend my money or get someone out to look at another component???
Ok it's on a boat, the rules aren't the same they are far stricter (i know this having been qualified for boats) the fans on GDHA are also cooling fans, but also provide combustion air too, working or swapping fans on a gas appliances is against the law (yes, law Jon) whatever you feel the purpose is of it is, i know what the fault is, but won't be advising on a public forum.
 
If somebody can show me a law that prohibits a householder from mending his own cooker in his own house, I'll believe it.

Not seen one yet.

I can quite understand that gasmen would like to believe, or to say, that there is such a law.
 
John, you've been shown, but tried to discredit them, you still seem to want to carry on this charade though even though you can't come up with anything to the contrary... at all.


How dull.
 
Have you been able to find a law yet, that prohibits a householder from mending his own cooker in his own house?

No, you haven't.

Pity, really.
 
Have you been able to find a law yet, that prohibits a householder from mending his own cooker in his own house?

No, you haven't.

Pity, really.
Its all there for you in post #16 like i said, not sure how much clearer it can be put to you.... it clearly says "law" the act of parliament has been given to you, but still you don't get it, maybe you're arguing to save face, its not working though, you're just making yourself look silly.
 
Post 16 is not a copy of a law.

It is a screenshot of somebody who is not a lawyer, vaguely claiming there is a law.

This
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1998/2451/introduction/made
is a copy of a law. It is an Act of Parliament.

See the difference?

You have not given or shown me an Act of Parliament.

I am quite willing to believe that there is a law which prohibits a householder from mending his own cooker in his own house. But only if somebody can show it to me.
 
Post 16 is not a copy of a law.

It is a screenshot of somebody who is not a lawyer, vaguely claiming there is a law.

This
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1998/2451/introduction/made
is a copy of a law. It is an Act of Parliament.

See the difference?

You have not given or shown me an Act of Parliament.

I am quite willing to believe that there is a law which prohibits a householder from mending his own cooker in his own house. But only if somebody can show it to me.

3.—(1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.

 
well, a cooker isn't a gas storage vessel, so I suppose you mean it is a gas fitting? Or do you mean the electric cooling fan is a gas fitting?

Are the castors on the bottom of the cooker included? What about the plastic knobs?

Which brings us to the question of "competent to do so"

How do you know if someone is competent to change an electric fan? 3(3) does not include the householder mending his own boiler in his own home, so there is no requirement for him to be "a member of a class of persons approved by the Health and Safety Executive under regulation 3(3)"
 
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well, a cooker isn't a gas storage vessel, so I suppose you mean it is a gas fitting? Or do you mean the electric cooling fan is a gas fitting?

Are the castors on the bottom of the cooker included? What about the plastic knobs?

Which brings us to the question of "competent to do so"

How do you know if someone is competent to change an electric fan? 3(3) does not include the householder mending his own boiler in his own home, so there is no requirement for him to be "a member of a class of persons approved by the Health and Safety Executive under regulation 3(3)"
Well what do you know, Mr Pedantic caught out yet again now tries nit picking, already knowing he's wrong (again) but hoping I won't find a link to his latest nit pick... I will though :D
 

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