Saniflo Gurgling Noise

Doesn`t matter how the cleaner gets in the tank o_O
Yep isolate it and pop the lid off, if you are going to work inside it then check part 15 and the slightest nick causing a break in the skin and you will be well advised to go tell a doctor what you have been working on :!:
 
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Good warning ... perhaps I will just try the descaler first.:sick:
I just thought I should possible check there isn't anything in there that shouldn't be first, but you may have talked me out of it.
What is part 15 and what am I looking for when checking? Is that connected to an air inlet?

And the descaler is OK to leave for upto a week - I'm sure I recall the packaging saying 4 hours last time.
If it ends up bubbling up through the shower tray I'll have to empty it, I wouldn't want to leave it on sanitaryware for any length of time.

Thanks again for your continued assitance.
 
You can leave the cleaner in there for a week, up to a point the longer the better. Part 15 is not anything to do with the air vent and you need to get inside to check it which I do not advise at this stage.
 
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OK, I'm back - sorry.
Maybe I'm over-thinking this.
The descaler is arriving tomorrow.
In the meanwhile I thought I'd switch off and try putting water down the sink to get an idea of how much I can put in without it overflowing into the shower tray.

Unfortunately any more that 2.5l and it starts coming out of the shower drain. So thats as much as I can realistically put in (I daren't risk leaving it on the shower tray for a week)

The top of the shower drain looks to be about 160-180mm, so maybe a tad low.
Looking at the data sheet it looks like this will only half fill the saniflow.
http://www.saniflo.co.uk/homeowners/sfa-product-line/sanislim-product-description/

According to that spect, the sanislim will hold circa 14 litres to the brim.
Is that enough descaler? Is all the stuff that needs cleaning at the bottom?
The only other option I can think of is to temporerily put the stopper back in to the shower inlet (I dont actually have the stopper, I'd have to get a new one from somewhere) so I can put more in.

How high do I realistically want the descaler level to be? And what happens if it goes too high? Can it leak over the top or is it a fully sealed unit and it will just back up towards the sink?

Starting to think my preference would be to block the shower off. If so any idea where I can get a replacement stopper?
Thanks
 
Why oh why do people ignore the advice given in the installation guide :mad: The shower tray is way too low so little wonder you are having problems?

I see nowhere in that link to suggest you will get 14L of liquid in a Sanislim - YOU WONT !

Either you or an experienced engineer will need to take it apart now as 2.5L of cleaner will do nothing to solve the problem.

Shower tray with a stopper o_O
 
just pumps said:
Why oh why do people ignore the advice given in the installation guide :mad: The shower tray is way too low so little wonder you are having problems?

I see nowhere in that link to suggest you will get 14L of liquid in a Sanislim - YOU WONT !

Either you or an experienced engineer will need to take it apart now as 2.5L of cleaner will do nothing to solve the problem.

Shower tray with a stopper o_O
Click to expand...

I meant remove the pipe from the saniflo and put the stopper in the saniflo - i.e. part F, like the ones that were in it before installation.

As for the actual installation, it wasn't me. Is it really that far out? I thought it had to be 180mm? In fact looking at step 11 in the manual, its 15cm to bottom of tray, I really cant be far off that. The tiles are probably an inch thick so it might be dead on that, I wont know unless I removed the boxing around the saniflo (which will be slightly lower than floor level)

The 14l was based on volume calculations of the unit - 447 x 131 x 270. I suppose it depends how much stuff is inside to also take up space.

OK, so whats my options then? Can I block off the shower and carry on as planned? Or does it need to be taken to bits?

OK, final edit:
Can I just disconnect the trap from the pipe at the shower, and blank it off with something like this for the duration?
http://www.screwfix.com/p/mcalpine-t23u-multifit-blanking-plug-white-40mm/96079
 
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You wont get part F tomorrow from anywhere, try using a blanking plug for 32mm pipe from Screwfix and then pour the whole bottle down the sink and leave it there as long as possible to let the acid do it`s job. Then when you return flush the toilet and see if it is now behaving as you remember, if it is better but no quite there then do it all again.
 
Arggghhh.
This is driving me mad now.
I've blocked off the shower.
Did a test run of 5l of water down sink with power off. All ran away and level in toilet bowl rose after about the 4th litre, all good after the 5th litre. Great!

Switched it back on and let it it drain.

Then switched it back off and put descaler down. Got to about 4l and it was coming out of the sink plughole.
Ran pump for a split second to get it below plug hole and have left it.
But is itsn't draining any further.

So I'm confused.
Did the original water not full drain away perhaps and is the saniflo full?
Or is there an airlock somewhere in the sink that is preventing the sink draining?

The toilet level didn't appear to have risen much either. I put a little down the bowl and it rose straight away, but not to the level it had previously. This didn't cause the sink water to rise. The sink is probably a foor higher than the top of the toilet bowl, so if it really was full I'd expect it to level off with the water in the toilet bowl, but it isn't, the sink water is much higher.

So not sure what to do now. Leave well alone?
Drain a bit more off the saniflo/sink and top up via the toilet bowl (I have half a bottle spare from a previous descaling)
Put more in bowl without draining any further - can you fill one of these up too much or are they a sealed unit?

Sorry, I know I'm being a pain but struggling to visualise whats going on without xray vision and I've never seen the inside of a saniflo to know whats going on in there.

Thanks
 
Are you familiar with the terms Hard Love or being Cruel to be kind?
If Yes then I'll send the next email and I mean you no disrepect because you've tried.
 
Yes .... fire away ....

I can work most stuff out. But I cant see whats inside this so cant see whats happening. Thats the problem.
In fairness I've used a degree of common sense and planning i.e. testing with water before wasting the descaler etc but for whatever reason this seems to be one problem after another

I just dont get why its not draining second time?

Sure, I can give up and get someone in, but surely it should be easy enough to get some descaler into it.

I guess all I want to know is can I leave it as it is, or is there a risk of overfilling it?
 
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