does external lift shaft need pp or br approval?

cristofa · 19 May 2017

I am building a lift from ground to first floor and hanging it off the side wall of the house. The lift platform is 1x1.2m and the shaft is to be constructed using SIPs. The top of the shaft will be in line with the eaves.

Do I need either planning or building regs approval for this - I can't find an external lift shaft mentioned in any of the literature.

^woody^ · 19 May 2017

freddiemercurystwin · 19 May 2017

It's an extension - and that's the legislation that will apply. The fact that it has a lift in it is irrelevant.

cristofa · 19 May 2017

... that's a pain - could you please explain why it is not a permitted development?

RichA · 19 May 2017

AFAIK 2 storey side extensions are not PD.

freddiemercurystwin · 19 May 2017

cristofa said:
... that's a pain - could you please explain why it is not a permitted development?

As mentioned two storey side extensions are not PD. https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/17/extensions

John D v2.0 · 19 May 2017

If you can move it to the back there's a high chance it'd only need building regs.
If you put it inside the house somewhere you might get away without building control involvement, but you'd be stretching it there.

Tigercubrider · 19 May 2017

Please tell me this is just the shaft, and not a whole diy lift?

cristofa · 19 May 2017

John D v2.0 said:
If you can move it to the back there's a high chance it'd only need building regs.
If you put it inside the house somewhere you might get away without building control involvement, but you'd be stretching it there.

... no, there's only one place it can go, so I guess I'll just have to go through the process - at 1.5 sqm, it's a very small extension

cristofa · 19 May 2017

Tigercubrider said:
Please tell me this is just the shaft, and not a whole diy lift?

... I am designing and building the whole lift - at 2.6m elevation and 220kg design load, that's no big deal

endecotp · 20 May 2017

cristofa said:
... I am designing and building the whole lift - at 2.6m elevation and 220kg design load, that's no big deal

Is it to carry people? Or just goods?

freddiemercurystwin · 20 May 2017

cristofa said:
... I am designing and building the whole lift - at 2.6m elevation and 220kg design load, that's no big deal

Impressive. For such a wise homeowner you'd have thought your skills would have stretched to a bit of googling for planning legislation.

bernardgreen · 20 May 2017

cristofa said:
and 220kg design load, that's no big deal

Is that the static or dynamic load ( dynamic load is when the carriage is accelerating, Even at very low accelerations it can be signifcantly greater than the static load )

cristofa · 20 May 2017

@ endecotp ... people

@ freddiemercurystwin ... I didn't come to this forum for sarky condescension - I am not a planning/building regs expert and I hoped I might find some knowledge here beyond Google. Googling turned up nothing on domestic lift regulations; nor any building regs or planning law relating to interior or exterior lifts. The absence of a Google reference does not mean that such regulations do not exist, it could just mean one is just using different terminology in the search. Also, a 2013 reference does not tell you that the rules changed after it was written.

And wisdom has nothing to do with designing simple machines.

@ bernardgreen ... 220kg is the static load and I will come up with the dynamic load and safety margin when I've finalised the hydraulic mechanism.

endecotp · 20 May 2017

is it to,carry,people? or just goods?

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