New build hot water cylinder

bobsuerita · 11 Jun 2017

that drawing will be the same for social housing (not shared different spec again)they have cylinders when we do newbuild most drawings show them but only social get them
also as said above somewhere dont fit a nest or any other alterations my mrs works for one of them big builders and you would kiss goodbye to any warranty

dilalio · 11 Jun 2017

@bobsuerita ... just figured out your username - great film that

bobsuerita · 11 Jun 2017

haha and its back to front

PullerGas · 11 Jun 2017

OP........c'mon, it's not a huge gaff. It's a starter home. That combi will do you just fine & Im pleased you're helping the 1,000s of workers, like me, in the new build Construction Industry.
Thanks mate.

PS. When I referred to myself as a worker, I did use the term loosely!!

Dan Robinson · 12 Jun 2017

PullerGas said:
OP........c'mon, it's not a huge gaff. It's a starter home. That combi will do you just fine & Im pleased you're helping the 1,000s of workers, like me, in the new build Construction Industry.
Thanks mate.

PS. When I referred to myself as a worker, I did use the term loosely!!

How many houses did you volunteer your contract too in order to have the chance to fit a combi over an unvented? Am I right in guessing you'd be paid more per unit for the latter?

AdvanceHelpline · 12 Jun 2017

Cylinders offer the following advantages - multi outlet use (not may combis do this) and flow rates up to 40 litres a minute can be achieved with through 22mm mains. If the boiler can't be used they also have back up immersion heaters. They can be used with solar PV as "batteries" and they are the only way to harvest renewables. Don't get me wrong - combis have their place and are fine for a lot of properties but I would never recommend one for a family home.

Dan Robinson · 12 Jun 2017

AdvanceHelpline said:
they are the only way to harvest renewables

Twaddle.

In the case of the OP, we don't know what size pipes are run through the house. So, changing to Unvented may be pointless in terms of performance.

Diy-mañana · 12 Jun 2017

AdvanceHelpline said:
. Don't get me wrong - combis have their place and are fine for a lot of properties but I would never recommend one for a family home.

Talksr the above comment sounds like an attempt to hijack your thread in favour of an established cylinder manufacturer,sales talk.

PullerGas · 12 Jun 2017

AdvanceHelpline said:
Cylinders offer the following advantages - multi outlet use (not may combis do this) and flow rates up to 40 litres a minute can be achieved with through 22mm mains. If the boiler can't be used they also have back up immersion heaters. They can be used with solar PV as "batteries" and they are the only way to harvest renewables. Don't get me wrong - combis have their place and are fine for a lot of properties but I would never recommend one for a family home.

Don't know what f.cking eutopia you live in mate, but there's no likelihood of getting 40Ltrs/min!!
Another £120 for the unvented service every year & the inherent risk of the f.cker blowing up!!
Where's Water Systems when you need him??!!

Seen plenty 35KW combis doing two hot taps, granted not with a high flow rate.

PullerGas · 12 Jun 2017

Diy-mañana said:
Talksr the above comment sounds like an attempt to hijack your thread in favour of an established cylinder manufacturer,sales talk.

Ach Advancedchatline is full of Shyte!!

PullerGas · 12 Jun 2017

The Real Pin 5 said:
How many houses did you volunteer your contract too in order to save the chance to fit a combi over an unvented? Am I right in guessing you'd be paid more per unit for the latter?

On Bonus Dan you'd get 6 hours to fit the unvented & 3 hours for the Heat only boiler. The combi would be 5 hours. Less hours for First Fix the Plot with a combi.
So in the grand scale of things, the unvented is better for the Plumber doing the install.

Dan Robinson · 12 Jun 2017

PullerGas said:
On Bonus Dan you'd get 6 hours to fit the unvented & 3 hours for the Heat only boiler. The combi would be 5 hours. Less hours for First Fix the Plot with a combi.
So in the grand scale of things, the unvented is better for the Plumber doing the install.

Pretty much as I thought then. Neighbour left before I got up this morning... We are dog sitting for my brother today so will go round to see neighbour when he comes home from work as we have run out of poop bags. Can ask him then.

muggles · 12 Jun 2017

talksr said:
Ok, makes sense. Hopefully, they will at least fit one of those electric radiators in this cupboard as was really hoping we would get a proper airing cupboard.

The reason I think the boiler is cheaper is because this is about the third new build I have viewed with a view to seriously buying, but have probably seen 8 or 9 different properties. The majority I have seen have Potterton or Valliant. Never heard of Ideal. Also, have a friend who works building new builds, sent him a few pics and as soon as he saw the boiler, he said it was not great. I had not even mentioned anything to him about it.

I am pleased that you think the plumbing at least has the capacity to take a cylinder in the future.
Do you think this sort of system would be able to take a Nest thermostat or similar? There are two thermostats on each level.

Ideal have been making boilers in the UK for over 100 years. The Logic is OK, I'd certainly take one over a Potterton, although you'll almost certainly find that in a new build you only get a 2 year warranty on the boiler no matter what make it is.

No reason why you shouldn't be able to fit an unvented cylinder in there but you could easily burn £1000+++ doing so. Ask why there isn't one as it's on the plans.

Nest should be fairly easy to do

talksr · 12 Jun 2017

muggles said:
Ideal have been making boilers in the UK for over 100 years. The Logic is OK, I'd certainly take one over a Potterton, although you'll almost certainly find that in a new build you only get a 2 year warranty on the boiler no matter what make it is.

No reason why you shouldn't be able to fit an unvented cylinder in there but you could easily burn £1000+++ doing so. Ask why there isn't one as it's on the plans.

Nest should be fairly easy to do

I will ask about cylinder but someone did say on here, it may be because it is an affordable house.

Glad a nest would work, I think I will leave it until the warranties expire as a couple of people have warned on here that changing the thermostats would invalidate any warranty I get.

Seems such a short period of time - 2 year warranty on a boiler.
My £200 Dyson hoover has a better warranty than that!

Dan Robinson · 12 Jun 2017

talksr said:
Seems such a short period of time - 2 year warranty on a boiler.

That's to keep the cost down - the builder will buy thousands of units for an eye wateringly low cost each and that is the compromise.

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