Magnetic contacts (Cursed)

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Firstly in short: If anyone knows of a door contact that doesn't require magnets, a mechanical held down switch perhaps please let me know. Thanks. :D

After my last thread about the contacts requiring regular replacement on my outbuilding due to false alarms, I tried as suggested the heavy duty ones, not because the gap between the contacts was excessive, just in hope of no more false alarms.

No more false alarms! Until eventually no reaction from the panel when opening the door expecting the countdown to start. The system is currently relying on the PIR to catch entry. However, when you set the alarm to leave and open the door it beeps to register the door is open and then the alarm sets when the door is finally closed. Come back sometime later open the door and again it does not set the alarm off or start entry countdown.

This building has had 5, no, 6 different door contacts in just over as many years, it's ridiculous.:mad: The building is made of wood, the door and structure are robust and sound, no magnets located near the door or frame, no metal objects, the only thing I can think off is 30-35c temp during the summer months and cold and damp in the winter months. Is that the issue? House alarm system doesn't have any trouble.

It's cursed.

(Accenta Gen4 with LCD panel system)

You may remember my thread "Magnetic Contacts - Expiry date? - False Alarms years later!"

Read more: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/...alse-alarms-years-later.355831/#ixzz4lFCrSSFj
 
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Have you checked the door pickup (with a meter) to make sure it is actually triggering the arm sequence (I'm wondering whether it is the PIR registering you moving towards the door you see).

Not heard of magnets failing- the reed switches would be more prone to failure but mine have been pretty reliable. You could build something like this http://cpc.farnell.com/camdenboss/csm40580a/microswitch-v4-long-lever/dp/SW03188 into the doorframe....
 
Have you checked the door pickup (with a meter) to make sure it is actually triggering the arm sequence (I'm wondering whether it is the PIR registering you moving towards the door you see).

Not heard of magnets failing- the reed switches would be more prone to failure but mine have been pretty reliable. You could build something like this http://cpc.farnell.com/camdenboss/csm40580a/microswitch-v4-long-lever/dp/SW03188 into the doorframe....

That looks like my best option. Thanks. I'd also say it was more secure an option. I was just watching a clip on youtube by magnasphere about the compass and magnet to fool a reed switch sensor.
 
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Interesting point (conpass/magnet trick). Might have an experiment with that, see if the steel frame on the garage door defeats that trick. Microswitch is easy enough to defeat if you know where it is- might be worth putting 2 in series (one on the lock side of the door and a 2nd in the hinge side). And conceal the wiring to the 2nd one. If you feel really energetic, you could recess the switch so the tongue of the lock activates it-much more difficult to defeat
 
I wonder if you open the door a jar, without activating the PIR, how long it would take for the alarm to enter entry mode? Could the extra "strong" pair of contacts be being held closed with residual magnetism? Decent contacts should be pretty much fit and forget.
 
Use Grade 3 contacts to avoid the compass and magnet trick... The old Aritech roller plunger switch was pretty reliable if fitted to the hinge side of the door. I think it's made by UTC these days, part no. DC113.
 

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