Petrol/Diesel ban from 2040

breadnbutter · 27 Jul 2017

electric push bikes are getting better now, 30km range.
electric motorbikes, have up to 100km range, the more expensive ones 200km, but the price tag is £25000

blightymam · 27 Jul 2017

HawkEye244 said:
In which case it sort of flies in the face of what we've been told about trying to be sustainable and less of a burden to the grid.

I've always thought with the government going on about diesel cars being fined, congestion charges, road tax variations etc that it was about dosh making and little else. Make public transport cheap & reliable and there you have a lot of people off the roads and not doing the commute instead of the dirty, crowded, expensive way it is to travel nowadays.

When I was at Uni in Edinburgh, to go home to see the folks meant getting back to Brighton. I hate coaches, so the cheapest method was flying, the second was driving and the most expensive, by far, was the train. Arse about face if you ask me.

transam · 27 Jul 2017

imho a lot of this green caper causes issues

ounce upon a day u bought a gas boiler & had it chugging away in yer house for 20 years plus , in-efficient but reliable

scroll on 2017 & u will be lucky to get 10 years before it is beyond economical repair.

hundreds /thousands of gas engineers charging around the country in diesel vans repairing boilers that have gone t*ts up with in 5 years of installation.

thousands of spares that have to be manufactured , thousands of boilers replaced that have to be manufactured .

we will pay a heavy price for "Green" technology

I remember when Durex sponsored the Suzuki british super bike team

u could buy all the promotional kit, hats, jackets, etc with the Durex brand name on it

Doggit · 27 Jul 2017

transam said:
we will pay a heavy price for "Green" technology

We always do, because the ones in power only look to get back in for the next term, so don't plan forward, or have the inteligence to work out the ramifications of their nice bright ideas.

Go save us from their inneptitude.

Brigadier · 27 Jul 2017

Doggit said:
I expect there'd soon be a phone apps to give you the sort of engine noise you want.

Been apps like that for years. Paid versions even track your engine revs and loading, so are pretty authentic. And, you can select the car you want to emulate.

transam · 27 Jul 2017

we work on a couple of bio masse boilers that heat a large district heating system via under ground pipes

they burn wood chips , always smells of smoke in the area .

wood smoke /green/ save the planet

feed in tariff

nice little earner tbh

motorbiking · 28 Jul 2017

I do like the idea of cartridge power that you unhook and swap, but it's open to fraud. If someone can make money selling fake single cell 18650s then people will fake swappable packs. particularly as a 50kw cell would be worth at least £10k scrap

ladylola · 28 Jul 2017

Possibly of more concern than what actually powers them?
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...s-driving-us-towards-the-next-financial-crash

empip · 28 Jul 2017

Blimey, who will want to pay for roads if they are disenfranchised from using them for personal transport due to cost of conveyance ?
Fuel - Just take a look at Google Earth - rows and rows of terraced houses with no off road vehicular access or maybe room for just one vehicle - Two cars gonna need some electrical infrastructure. Surely there will be an impact on property values ??? The accelerated demise of filling stations will be a problem long before 2040

When having a new consumer unit fitted a few years back the sparky raised his eyebrows at the fact we have a 3 phase head... Could be useful I guess / hope.
Maybe I should see about installing high rate charging facility as a home improvement ? Surely 13 or even 16 Amp outlets not going to provide the fast charges the pop press enthuse over.
Roll on the revolution.

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SirGalahad · 28 Jul 2017

Doggit said:
We always do, because the ones in power only look to get back in for the next term, so don't plan forward, or have the inteligence to work out the ramifications of their nice bright ideas.

Go save us from their inneptitude.

Industry lobbies government so policies invariably reflect what is good for the industry incumbents. The problem is government advisers have an obsession with quantification - something to be assessed first has to be quantified. So assessing boilers on their efficiency and setting a target on that is far easier than one that sets it on reliability.

An example of the economist Charles Goodheart law - "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure."

seniorservice · 28 Jul 2017

Firebrand said:
That's easy to solve.... The Irish have green diesel so that the diesel dippers can check that the right duty is paid... We will have green electricity to alert the customs and excise if we are using the wrong electricity

Talking of green energy, how will all those windmills cope at night when millions of cars are plugged into the national grid at the same time?

Corgigrouch GTi · 28 Jul 2017

seniorservice said:
Talking of green energy, how will all those windmills cope at night when millions of cars are plugged into the national grid at the same time?

Simple... Build some more windmills to act as huge desk fans to blow the windmills to make them work better.. you need to start thinking like an ecomentalist if you want answers to the tough questions

Brigadier · 28 Jul 2017

You won't be able to drive anywhere anyway: by 2040, how many ICE cars will be on the roads, in addition to electric ones?

seniorservice · 28 Jul 2017

Firebrand said:
Simple... Build some more windmills to act as huge desk fans to blow the windmills to make them work better.. you need to start thinking like an ecomentalist if you want answers to the tough questions

I think you may have something there. There's always a simple answer, no matter how crazy it may appear, if you use some environazi logic.

Energy crisis averted.

EFLImpudence · 28 Jul 2017

It's madness.

We don't need wind generators; it's windy enough already.

We don't need driverless cars; the roads are busy enough already.

Can I have a job?

Petrol/Diesel ban from 2040

blightymam

Doggit

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