Corner joist clearance from wall and which hanger to use?

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• 16 Aug 2017

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I need to replace the first joist. IIRC I read somewhere that a gap of 25 - 75mm should be left between first joist and the wall. My existing bad joist is touching the wall. Do I have to leave a gap. If so, how much gap should I leave from the wall?
Also, a normal face mount hanger will not work in the corner. Corner is formed by brick wall one side and RSJ with timer in the web on other side. I can nail the hanger from one side but not from the other side of the joist as the wall blocks my access. Please advise.
Many thanks, hl.

 

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• 17 Aug 2017

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What kind of joist's?
How are the joists seated - on wall plates or built into the wall(s) or on built-in hangers or ledgered hangers?

Please post pics ref your second question.

 

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• 17 Aug 2017

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I can't post the picture yet but here is a link - http://www.doityourself.com/forum/d...steps-docks/563975-joist-hanger-corner.html#b
I wish to do something similar. I don't have a triple joist though. Just a single joist. Ledger board perpendicular to the joist as in the picture and a masonry wall parallel to the first joist(where there is wood cladding in the picture).

A hanger like this - https://www.strongtie.co.uk/products/detail/width-adjustable-face-fix-joist-hanger/56 will work but it needs to be put on both sides they say. I don't have access from the wall side to nail it tot he joist

 

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• 17 Aug 2017

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A gap is left to make it easier to run cables/pipes behind, and so the flooring can sit on it, without the plaster covering the joist, but isn't essential. I'd just skew nail the joist & fit your hanger the best you can.. pack between the wall & joist when fitting the strutting.

 

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• 18 Aug 2017

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Thanks themiddleagedun!
I din't get the 'pack between the wall &joist when fitting the strutting'. Please explain in layman's term. Bit thick here.
Someone suggested I screw the joist directly to the masonry using M10 bolts(rawl anchor bolts) as I don't have any cable/pipes passing there. Is this an acceptable way?
Bit like this :

 

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• 18 Aug 2017

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How about nailing the hanger to the joist first? Then you just need to space it a hammers width out from the wall and you will be able to nail it to the timber in the RSJ.