Why do light fittings still have live prongs

I also rather doubt that, without extensive changes to my (also extensive) CH system, a condensing boiler would be significant more efficient than a non-condensing one.
The most common change would be to operate the boiler on a lower water temperature during the warmer parts of the heating season. The rads should already be sized for the coolest party of the season so any warmer days would be ok.
With a condensing boiler you would generally size them for a cooler water temperature and still be big enough for mid winter. Clearly that's easier in a well insulated house than an old castle:)
 
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The truthful side.


Installers would be used to them by now when sizing radiators
I'm sure they are.

But what about the situations where the radiators are not sized, because they are already installed and a new boiler is fitted?


although clearly some would be fitted to inefficient systems, I wouldn't say that's true indefinitely.
I'm sure it won't be, but, to date, how many people who have had condensing boilers installed have, at the same time, replaced their existing radiators, and possibly pipework to divide the house into zones?

And as of right now, how many people having a condensing boiler installed next week are planning to also replace their existing radiators etc?

How long does the cost of replacing existing radiators take to be covered by lower fuel bills?
 
But what about the situations where the radiators are not sized, because they are already installed and a new boiler is fitted?
That would certainly be my situation.
I'm sure it won't be, but, to date, how many people who have had condensing boilers installed have, at the same time, replaced their existing radiators, and possibly pipework to divide the house into zones?
One imagines not many. In my case, although the system is already divided into several zones, replacement of radiators and some pipework would be a very major undertaking ....
How long does the cost of replacing existing radiators take to be covered by lower fuel bills?
In my case, I'm not sure that I would put money on that occurring during my lifetime. An issue for future generations to address, perhaps - provided that there is then still some gas left for them to burn in their boilers.

Kind Regards, John
 
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I also rather doubt that, without extensive changes to my (also extensive) CH system, a condensing boiler would be significant more efficient than a non-condensing one.

Seems strange that a discussion about boilers has found its way into this thread about lamp holders.

John is right to doubt.

If the water returning to the boiler is warmer than the dew point ( circa 50 °C ) then a condensing boiler's flame to water heat exchanger will have difficulty to achieve the efficiency claimed for the boiler. There can be some extra effciency when the incoming air is warmed by the out going fumes but this cmplocate the flue.

An independent Test Laboratory rated the boiler at over 95% ( SEDBUK rating ) but monitoring performance in a real retro fit situation found efficiency less than 50% ( enery to water / energy in gas burnt ) averaged over 4 weeks
 

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