Downlights or Kitchen Installation - Which should come first?

I know I am clever.

And I know I am cleverer than you, because I would not claim that only a woman would know where to have lights in a kitchen.

But feel free to bring forth reliable evidence to support your theory, as an intelligent and rational alternative to obscene abuse.
 
Sponsored Links
veedee said:
@Seb101 the kitchen already has electricity in the ceiling from the existing florecent light / extractor fan.. so will this mean less hassle when wiring the lights?
Click to expand...

Hard to say! The wiring for a single central tube light is likely to run from the edge of the room, along the line of the joists, to the middle of the fixture in the centre of the room. If you're replacing this with 4 or more downlights, evenly distributed around the room, this is going to mean wiring through joists at least 4 times, probably more.

Get a stud-finder and work out which way the joists go, note their approximate location and spacing. Draw them onto a plan, then work out where the lights can go (i.e. not directly on a joist) and where you want them to be. The only thing you can be really sure of electrically is that there will be 240V switched live and neutral to the tube lamp - so start to plan the wiring from there, keeping in mind that every time you have to go through a joist it will be a complete pain in the butt. The most efficient way of wiring (in terms of overall effort) is almost never the way that uses the least cable - I would happily use 10 times the amount of cable if it meant not having to remove plasterboard and drill fresh holes in joists.
 
ban-all-sheds said:
And I know I am cleverer than you, because I would not claim that only a woman would know where to have lights in a kitchen
Click to expand...

You may well be cleverer than me, but in calling me an idiot for a comment that I made, just proves how rude and arrogant you are. All you had to do, was point out that a lot of men realise these things as well (not that I'm sure they do) and I would have said sorry, you're right. But you started the rudeness, so I think I'm justified in continuing it.

I have now reached the end of my tether with you BAS, and as the majority of your comments are maliciously directed at other members, rather than trying to help those seeking advice, I have now decided that you are too much of a waste of space and time to bother with, so you're now going on ignore.
 
Doggit said:
But you started the rudeness, so I think I'm justified in continuing it.
Click to expand...
I think most people would find a considerable gap between me calling you a bit of an idiot for writing something idiotic, and you calling me a c**t.


I have now reached the end of my tether with you BAS, and as the majority of your comments are maliciously directed at other members, rather than trying to help those seeking advice, I have now decided that you are too much of a waste of space and time to bother with, so you're now going on ignore.
Click to expand...
Good-oh - it means that next time you say something idiotic I can point that out to others, and nobody will have to suffer your idiotic overreactions.
 
Sponsored Links
wgt52 said:
3) Fit socket outlets and plumbing to suit kitchen appliances
Click to expand...

Before this thread becomes locked I would say the sockets and plumbing are irrevelent as they are not part of the equation.

Only the downlights and kitchen units have been mentioned.
 
ban-all-sheds said:
Depending on how much work you're prepared to do to the ceiling, you might also consider LED panels.
Click to expand...
Sorry to dive into someone else's topic but I'm considering LED panels for our kitchen, are there any you could recommend?

As with anything LED these days everyone is jumping on the bandwagon and it's hard to sort the wheat from the chaff. Quality and longevity takes priority over cost.
 
Last time I used them, the LED Gu10's started failing after 3 months.
 
Used what?
How much were the LED lamps?
Did you complain?
Did you ask for replacements?
How long ago was this?
 
Used LedHut to buy lamps
About £3 each
Yes.
Yes, and got charged 50p for a replacement which didn't match the colour
3 years.

The client said soddit, wouldn't use them again, and waited till most of them had died, and then replaced the lot in one go for ones from Toolstation; less than half the price (understandable as prices have dropped), and way way brighter.
 
Yes, thongs have moved on a great deal in that time.

I bought these a couple of years back, with 5 year warranty:

https://www.ledhut.co.uk/7-watt-gu10-led-spotlight-wide-beam.html

One out of 8 went so I rang them up and they sent a new one. Since then, they have performed faultlessly.

They are in the family lounge and are on for a long time, as I have poor eyesight, so they are on during the day.
 
This is you, right?

upload_2018-2-15_18-38-18.png
 
D

DIYnot Local

Staff member

If you need to find a tradesperson to get your job done, please try our local search below, or if you are doing it yourself you can find suppliers local to you.

Select the supplier or trade you require, enter your location to begin your search.


Are you a trade or supplier? You can create your listing free at DIYnot Local

 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Sponsored Links

Similar threads

H
Downlighter close to joist...
Replies
1
Views
677
RMS
R
Alarm Engineer
LED Downlighter install
Replies
2
Views
649
Taylortwocities
Taylortwocities
G
installing kitchen downlights in ceiling
Replies
13
Views
4K
breezer
B
Q
Installing downlighters
Replies
2
Views
1K
Taylortwocities
Taylortwocities
M
Kitchen Downlighter installation
Replies
0
Views
563
manbey1
M
Back
Top