NO NO NO !!!

Notch7 · 31 Jul 2018

Yafo said:
But if Corbyn is the reason, why are the Tories not surging ahead? That is the really pertinent question

Er no it really is not the pertinent question.

a poorly performing opposition party isnt going to create a surge in rating for a poorly performing government in power........

The other way round though...yes, it is pretty common for an opposition party to surge ahead in the polls mid term as government in power gets in trouble with the way it performs on issues

Yafo · 31 Jul 2018

Notch7 said:
Er no it really is not the pertinent question.

a poorly performing opposition party isnt going to create a surge in rating for a poorly performing government in power........

The other way round though...yes, it is pretty common for an opposition party to surge ahead in the polls mid term as government in power gets in trouble with the way it performs on issues

You might want to think about that.

If 1 leader is a real drag on support for any party, the other party should surge ahead , at any time. It has happened countless times in the past and will in the future too.

So how do you explain right now? Internal fighting, poor management of the country? Just means the electorate doesn't know where to turn. Isn't that a major problem right in the middle of the most important point in our country's recent history?

noseall · 31 Jul 2018

All it means is Labour are bad. But the Tories are so much worse. Being a Tory politician is not a good place to be at present. But it's a sh it job and someone has to do it.

ntb · 31 Jul 2018

Yafo said:
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But if Corbyn is the reason, why are the Tories not surging ahead? That is the really pertinent question

Because LibLabCon are all a shower of sh1t that don't give a stuff about the ordinary working man or woman. I've had my fill of all of them.

gasbanni · 31 Jul 2018

wobs said:
And yet you posted earlier this year:

It didn't last long.

True your absolutely correct. I tried it but it didn't work ....so I'm having fun.

Notch7 · 1 Aug 2018

Yafo said:
If 1 leader is a real drag on support for any party, the other party should surge ahead

It doesnt work like that.

1 party is in power, 1 main party is in opposition.

Typically mid term, the incumbent party gets gets called to account, voters get frustrated and the opposition surges ahead.

Yafo said:
ou might want to think about that

Yes, you take no account that the party in power takes most of the flak as it is judged on its performance whilst opposition parties are not.

You argument is stupid, so you might want to think about that.

And give up on asking smug questions all the time, its tedious. You might want think about that too

IWalkLikeHimaMartian · 1 Aug 2018

Yafo said:
So how do you explain right now? Internal fighting, poor management of the country? Just means the electorate doesn't know where to turn. Isn't that a major problem right in the middle of the most important point in our country's recent history?

I think that is the nub of the problem.
If there was a vociferous anti-Brexit party (the current anti-Brexit parties are so quiet they are forgotten about) Remainers would have flocked to them.
The other parties would have to modify their stance to avoid losing members or even MPs.

Notch7 said:
Typically mid term, the incumbent party gets gets called to account, voters get frustrated and the opposition surges ahead.

So Tories are currently making a complete hash of everything, but the other parties are not holding them to account.
The nearest that the government is coming to being held to account is from the staunch Brexiteers.
The pro-EU MPs appear to have lost their collective voices.

Yafo · 1 Aug 2018

Notch7 said:
It doesnt work like that.

1 party is in power, 1 main party is in opposition.

Typically mid term, the incumbent party gets gets called to account, voters get frustrated and the opposition surges ahead.

Yes, you take no account that the party in power takes most of the flak as it is judged on its performance whilst opposition parties are not.

You argument is stupid, so you might want to think about that.

And give up on asking smug questions all the time, its tedious. You might want think about that too

When people answer with facts and not dreams, I will give up.

Til then, happy to keep pointing out the obvious

gasbanni · 1 Aug 2018

Notch7 said:
And give up on asking smug questions all the time, its tedious. You might want think about that too

That's a very accurate observation imaturkeymartionwanbebediyerwhateverwhocares does come across in his posts as smug and one does get the impression he thinks very highly of himself it also comes across that he's very self congratulatory. I don't really get that impression of a personality trait from any other poster other than the boastful one.
One of the things he used to do is put lots of laughing faces at the end of his posts thinking they were funny, I dont have him on ignore but I don't ever engage in dialogue with him because ...he's not worth it !

But yes, smug thats the impression I get too...........

Yafo · 1 Aug 2018

gasbanni said:
That's a very accurate observation imaturkeymartionwanbebediyerwhateverwhocares does come across in his posts as smug and one does get the impression he thinks very highly of himself it also comes across that he's very self congratulatory. I don't really get that impression of a personality trait from any other poster other than the boastful one.
One of the things he used to do is put lots of laughing faces at the end of his posts thinking they were funny, I dont have him on ignore but I don't ever engage in dialogue with him because ...he's not worth it !

But yes, smug thats the impression I get too...........

From a self confessed troll

It is easy to ignore facts, and attack the person, not the message.

Feel free, you keep posting inaccurate rubbish, and I will keep posting questions to make you think, or alternatively expose yourself more.

It's a forum. My opinions are as entitled to be here as yours. The only difference is that mine are based on thoughts, yours are based on being a troll.

Deny being a troll ?

I don't even care if that sounds smug. It's accurate.

IWalkLikeHimaMartian · 1 Aug 2018

Notch7 said:
I don't ever engage in dialogue with him because ....

You leave that to your alter ego.
Some smiley faces for you:

Now has that not brightened your day?

Notch7 · 1 Aug 2018

Yafo said:
When people answer with facts and not dreams, I will give up.

Til then, happy to keep pointing out the obvious

Mildly amusing,

If you had any worthwhile response, you would have made it

Perhaps youve realised, a government in power is judged against its performance. An opposition government cannot be judged against its performance it isnt power and therefore not performing.

A badly performing government will almost always lead to the main opposition leading in the polls from mid term onwards as a result of the public showing their frustration. Same holds true for local elections somewhat.

Your argument that an opposition party doing badly in the polls should therefore generate the incumbent party to have a strong poll rating is totally flawed logic.

But then youve realised that, hence I wont be seeing a response.

Notch7 · 1 Aug 2018

IWalkLikeHimaMartian said:
So Tories are currently making a complete hash of everything, but the other parties are not holding them to account.

Its true, Ive not known anything like this before.

The Tories really are making a hash of everything. Surely the opposition parties should be absolutely crucifying them.

I suppose the Tories dont want a leadership challenge and Labour dont really want to take over Brexit.....imagine being handed that now

Yafo · 2 Aug 2018

Notch7 said:
Mildly amusing,

If you had any worthwhile response, you would have made it

Perhaps youve realised, a government in power is judged against its performance. An opposition government cannot be judged against its performance it isnt power and therefore not performing.

A badly performing government will almost always lead to the main opposition leading in the polls from mid term onwards as a result of the public showing their frustration. Same holds true for local elections somewhat.

Your argument that an opposition party doing badly in the polls should therefore generate the incumbent party to have a strong poll rating is totally flawed logic.

But then youve realised that, hence I wont be seeing a response.

The answer is there, pages ago.

Feel free to ignore it, as you do normally.

IWalkLikeHimaMartian · 2 Aug 2018

Notch7 said:
Mildly amusing,

If you had any worthwhile response, you would have made it

Ad hominem attack.

NO NO NO !!!

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