It's valid, Javid

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SammyInnit said:
It isn't and that's the reality.
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There is no legal requirement for refugees to register for asylum in their first country of arrival.
If they did and subsequently traveled onwards, there is only a system within the EU to facilitate such discovery.
A system which we may not have access to after Brexit, and the gentleman's agreement, currently in force, within the EU, is forfeited.
 
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SammyInnit said:
Irrelevant how?

Suppose I might stroll on to the American Embassy and say I'm an asylum seeker now and they'll have to let me in because it's all irrelevant anyway.
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Boats! If you arrive at a US embassy in a boat?
It's irrelevant because there is no requirement for a refugee to register in the first country of arrival!
You could be a refugee that has traveled half way round the world, you could still walk into the US embassy in London, and claim asylum.
Ask Julian Assange how it's done.

Have a look at his page to see who has claimed asylum in Embassies around the world.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_took_refuge_in_a_diplomatic_mission
 
SammyInnit said:
Just as I suspected. No facts, plenty of grandstanding and virtue signalling.

The was no question to answer as long as it was based on a presumption without fact.
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It was a very simple question, but it appears that you won't take responsibility for your own bullish rhetoric...

But in case you've forgotten so soon...
SammyInnit said:
My answer would be to escort them to edge of our waters and say off you go, apply properly next time.
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And the question (more simplistically put for you this time) in response to your statement was, would you personally "escort them to edge of our waters and say off you go"?

Yes or no?
 
Doppleganger said:
There is no legal requirement for refugees to register for asylum in their first country of arrival.
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But why wouldn't you if you were genuinely in fear for you life? Why would you go to the trouble of crossing the channel and quite possibly being refused or even being killed during the crossing?

Probably because you're not so much a refugee as you are an economic migrant who thinks it's worth the risk.
 
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ellal said:
It was a very simple question, but it appears that you won't take responsibility for your own bullish rhetoric...

But in case you've forgotten so soon...


And the question (more simplistically put for you this time) in response to your statement was, would you personally "escort them to edge of our waters and say off you go"?

Yes or no?
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The same way we escort russian invaders to the edge of our waters, yes I would. You have no proof of who these people are so why should you presume any differently.

One rule for one and a different for another is foolish without evidence.
 
SammyInnit said:
The same way we escort russian invaders to the edge of our waters, yes I would. You have no proof of who these people are so why should you presume any differently.

One rule for one and a different for another is foolish without evidence.
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Russians?

Oh, you must mean the ones in those large warships/warplanes?

But hey, at least we now know that you would personally discard human beings into the english channel like worthless trash...

Apparently there will be some opportunities coming up soon in the UK Border Farce...

Best you waddle off to G4S and volunteer your enthusiastic services (y)

Just make sure they actually have boats :LOL:
 
ellal said:
Oh, you must mean the ones in those large warships/warplanes?
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Seems the freedom of movement advocate hasn't crossed a UK border recently.

They can arrive in cars and still get refused.
 
Anyway ... my OP was more about the fact that our Home Secretary, responsible for looking after the UK, can't even question motives of people illegally trying to get in the country (after travelling through several safe countries) without the libtards instantly denouncing him and saying how these illegal immigrants should be just let in regardless and allowed to launch their illegal entry efforts unquestioned.

That must surely make us all feel safe if (God forbid) any of these libtards eve got into power. FFS.
 
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There may be very valid reasons for a refugee to prefer to register in UK. Family, language, career, qualifications to name just a few.
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A refugee I have the utmost sympathy for - anyone who's lost so much, witnessed such horror and live in fear should be able to live in a safe place.
However, I would imagine a genuine refugee who makes that dangerous journey in a boat would just be happy to find somewhere safe and they don't have to run anymore. The fact that they wish to pick and chose a country makes me suspicious about being a refugee, especially if they add many more dangerous miles to the journey. After all, there is nothing to stop them applying to move to the UK once settled elsewhere using the official channels is there?
 
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