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Is this just crap or the truth?

That list has been doing the rounds for a while.

Crap or truth?

Well the Lisbon does contain some of those things, but the list presents them in a dishonest way. Euro for example: yes the Lisbon does mention nation states shoul join the Eurozone, but the UK is entitled to not adopt the Euro.

Another example: majority voting, well yes it is in the Lisbon treaty, but qualified majority voting already existed, its just been expanded in some areas.

The UK cant make its own trade deals: of course not, that isnt in the Lisbon treaty, its being a full member of the EU. Its obvious because the EU is a trading block so each nation doesnt do its own deals.

So yes, the list contains some truth in regards to the treaty but the interpretations are dishonest.
 
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Well the Lisbon does contain some of those things, but the list presents them in a dishonest way.

So yes, the list contains some truth in regards to the treaty but the interpretations are dishonest.
Not just the interpretations, some of the items in the list are blatantly untrue:
11. The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights
12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 - as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty
13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation
14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent​

If anyone gives any serious consideration to this propaganda, they deserve all they get with a No Deal Brexit.
In fact, if there are people who do give this propaganda serious consideration, it proves that the referendum result was based on a series of lies and myths.
 
Seriously, do you have to? Please don't be another BAS. One is enough and anyway, you're better than that.
Indeed,,,please do not become a hate filled BAS monstrosity,,passing itself off as vaguely human.
 
If anyone gives any serious consideration to this propaganda, they deserve all they get with a No Deal Brexit.
Oooh, a nice little bit of lording it over people. Did you get off on that?
 
It's wrong but as it fits in with your bias you think it's true Bodd.

Dangerous times we live in when fiction becomes fact to so many.
 
How ridiculous! The Common Market sorry I meant the EEC oops sorry its the EU now or has it already morphed into the USoE?
As noseall said how ridiculous to think that Germany would want to rule Europe! Why would they want to do that? They rely on exports and have a very good port positioned 60 miles down a river, we have got the port of London should Felixstowe, Southampton, Hull, Rotherham, Liverpool, Portbury, Plymouth and the other 50 or so ports around the British Isles get inundated with too much work that they couldn't cope..
As I've said before the people behind Hitler didn't perish in the bunker!
A few years ago I said that the EU wanted their own army and was ridiculed!
The article is true! Give it a few years and I will be proven right again!
 
Wtf is he on,,,
On?

Bodd claimed that he had never seen something before despite the fact that he'd participated in a topic where the identical thing had been posted and discussed.

Much like the way you claimed not to have known what "fellow traveller" meant despite the fact it had been explained in a topic where you had made dozens of posts.

Which is probably why you're puzzled here - clearly you see absolutely nothing wrong with pretending that you've not read things which you have, and pretending that you don't know or understand things which demonstrably have been explained to you.
 
clearly you see absolutely nothing wrong with pretending that you've not read things which you have, and pretending that you don't know or understand things which demonstrably have been explained to you.
Is that DP you are referring to or quitters in general?
 
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