So as suggested above, 10mm earth surface wired wired to the skirting board suffice?
Earth Bonding and Surveyor Rant
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So as suggested above, 10mm earth surface wired wired to the skirting board suffice?
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Surface mounting is fine.
I would agree with the others that it is not your responsibility when selling.
It is up to the buyer whether they want the property as it is at the price - just like selling a car.
for the sake of a few pounds this might make my FTB relax - it will also mean I will get a only C3 which means the installation will be deemed satisfactory
Because my CU is one of the 1980 fused units - with no RCD protection does this really mean its a fire hazard? or is the surveyor playing well outside his experience
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In that case, as has been said, I really don't think that you should be even considering having any electrical work done - and very few sellers would have had the electrical installation inspected in the way you appear to have done. Both of those are really for the buyers to do, at their cost, if they so wish and if they decide to buy the house.
Kind Regards, John
He's just covering himself - which is all they do.
It isn't to the latest regulations but it doesn't have to be.
Again, as you are selling, it is up to the buyer whether he wants it or not - and the price.
No, there are plenty still in service. However, as has been said, if that fuse box is indicative of the age of the electrical installation in general, it's very likely that a buyer will want extensive electric work done (after they buy!), quite probably a complete re-wire - and the bonding will get sorted out if/when that's done.
It sound rather like it.
Kind Regards, John
I'm not sure what the requirements for bonding were back in the day, 15th edition was as i recall when it all started getting mad (people bonding metal window frames ffs).
But changes in regulations are not retrospective- if your place was signed off when it was built and hasn't been substantially altered since then it is what it is.
You may have done yourself no favours commissioning an EICR before sale- without that inspection you could have pleaded ignorance of any issues with the wiring. But you are where you are...
Interesting semantic point- building surveyors have a waiver usually on the front page saying 'this survey was commissioned by mrs abc, no-one else can rely on its accuracy or sue me for errors or omissions'. EICRs and Gas Safe inspections don't have that get out of jail clause.
Back on point. Tack 10mm to the skirtings if that gets you down from 'dangerous' to 'requires attention' and expect some haggling from the buyers
But changes in regulations are not retrospective- if your place was signed off when it was built and hasn't been substantially altered since then it is what it is.
You may have done yourself no favours commissioning an EICR before sale- without that inspection you could have pleaded ignorance of any issues with the wiring. But you are where you are...
Interesting semantic point- building surveyors have a waiver usually on the front page saying 'this survey was commissioned by mrs abc, no-one else can rely on its accuracy or sue me for errors or omissions'. EICRs and Gas Safe inspections don't have that get out of jail clause.
Back on point. Tack 10mm to the skirtings if that gets you down from 'dangerous' to 'requires attention' and expect some haggling from the buyers
Exactly.
If a buyer wants a house that complies with current regs, they should buy a new house (best of luck with snagging issues).
The water does not need bonding then.
Ha, that's no guarantee
The house my mother was thinking of buying had several significant departures from regs - cables not in safe zones, cables (main meter tails) buried less than 50mm and not RCD protected. In a way it's a pity she pulled out from buying it as I was looking forward to getting NIC onsite and asking why there was a fraudulent installation certificate for the electrics
Simple observation. It was a new build and we got to see it at various stages. So I could easily see the meter tails came through the back of the fuglybox and 2-3 foot up the wall to where the CU was going to be after the dot-n-dab boarding went on - then later the same tails sticking out of a hole in the boarding with no protection added.
Then in the kitchen, they'd left a loop of T&E sticking out of the wall which later ended up feeding sickets to either side. To be fair, there was a bit of "fluidity" in their instructions, but I did clearly see on one occasion the cable after they'd been finished but before the holes got filled.
So not obscure technicalities, basics that anyone should know
Then in the kitchen, they'd left a loop of T&E sticking out of the wall which later ended up feeding sickets to either side. To be fair, there was a bit of "fluidity" in their instructions, but I did clearly see on one occasion the cable after they'd been finished but before the holes got filled.
So not obscure technicalities, basics that anyone should know
Ah, that makes sense. It hadn't occurred to me that you would have seen it 'at various stages' of the build - one tends to only be shown 'show houses', in which any such naughtiness has already been covered up!.
Kind Regards, John
My daughters new build had the 12 way switch grid in the kitchen, she wanted the appliances in different places to the engraved switches so I moved the switshes around... and noticed it was fed with a single 2.5mm² T&E on a B32 MCB. Complaint to the builders and they changed it to B20. Next complaint to builders was due to an unfrozen freezer and several months later after much argy bargy they corrected added another 2.5mm.Ha, that's no guarantee
The house my mother was thinking of buying had several significant departures from regs - cables not in safe zones, cables (main meter tails) buried less than 50mm and not RCD protected. In a way it's a pity she pulled out from buying it as I was looking forward to getting NIC onsite and asking why there was a fraudulent installation certificate for the electrics
Most of the cables to CU ran inside the 70mm plasterboard wall to ceiling level, the whole lot had been bunched together with Tywraps and tape making it impossible to pull something through on a cable.
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