Fancy that ! This article exactly sums up the views of some on here !

Trouble with so-called 'experts' is they only need to know 0.0000001% more than you to be able to pull the wool over your eyes. This forum is full of experts in many fields - it’s a wonder they even manage to argue amongst themselves if there’s only one 'expert' way to do things. I take it you consider yourself to be an IT expert?
In that, perhaps, I knew .00000001% more than many others. But there were many who knew .0000001% more than I.

If the experts are "so-called 'experts'", why the need for a DIY advice site? Why don't we all just suck it and see?
Why do we go to the Doctor? Why do we use solicitors? Why do I need an optician?
 
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If the experts are "so-called 'experts'", why the need for a DIY advice site? Why don't we all just suck it and see?
Why do we go to the Doctor? Why do we use solicitors? Why do I need an optician?

Yeah, why indeed? Those experts never get things wrong do they? Of course, financial experts are consistently opining correctly and markets never crash, do they? :LOL:
 
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Hi Motman

I couldn’t read the whole article unfortunately. It’s worth noting that is an opinion piece rather than fact. I see how the examples he gives could be seen as bullying. Might it also, if roles were reversed, be seen as using negotiating leverage?

We were told before we left how we could negotiate this amazing deal which the EU would fall over themselves to give us. Well it turns out we don’t hold all the cards after all, in fact, we are in a very weak negotiating position. As we have chosen to leave, can you blame the EU for looking after their own?

Perhaps they are responding in kind to our attempts at applying negotiating pressure - we have threatened to withhold anti-terrorist intelligence, and at one point we were using the 100s thousands of EU citizens who made the UK their home as pawns.

I think we can both agree that the UK has shown it can’t negotiate its way out of a paper bag. Who goes into a negotiation and tells the other party what your red lines are before you start? Madness.

What sort of deal do you think we are going to get from Trump and the USA when we are out on our arse? And why pursue free trade across the Atlantic anyway when we already have a trade deal with the largest single market in the world just across the channel?

I sense your minds made up, but be curious, and if you think there are vested interests, why not ask why Farage, Rhys Mogg etc are so keen to leave. You might also want to ask where Leave campaign and Brexit Party got their money from - there’s nothing “sovereign” about using money from Russia to subvert our democracy.
 
  • Like the forecasted Y2K meltdown, I guess the only real way is to wait and see because everything at this stage is just opinions. Didn’t the Gov of the Bank of England forecast massive meltdown the day after the vote back in 2016 if the leave vote won?
 
Like the forecasted Y2K meltdown, I guess the only real way is to wait and see because everything at this stage is just opinions. Didn’t the Gov of the Bank of England forecast massive meltdown the day after the vote back in 2016 if the leave vote won?

The Y2K has been often quoted, but lets be honest, it hardly has equivalence.

Yes the Gov of the bank of England did exaggerate, but also it injected £3.1b after the referendum.

I would prefer it if the UK was able to leave the EU and be successful, the problem is 40 years of integration means starting from scratch, its just not worth it.

Brexit has damaged the economy, before its even happened:
Brexit has wiped £40 billion from Britain's annual economic growth since referendum, top Bank of England official reveals
Speaking in London, Mr Vlieghe said Britain would be growing two per cent faster if the referendum had voted for Remain. “Based on what happened in the rest of the world we would have expected UK growth to accelerate, but actually it slowed,” he told the Resolution Foundation


 
Speaking in London, Mr Vlieghe said Britain would be growing two per cent faster if the referendum had voted for Remain.
More guesswork then. These financial guessers must be multi multi millionaires with their expert view into the future. It’s a wonder they’ve got time to do a job of work for someone else. Just helping them out I suppose. :rolleyes:
 
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