The BBC needs to explain its way out of this one.

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And no, makes no difference. He's a comedian, same as Brand.
What makes no difference? I know what context means, I just can't figure out what context you're actually referring to. The fact that it was meant as a joke? The fact that it was said by a professional comedian? The fact that it was on the BBC? The fact that it was said during a period when acid-attacks and political division are hot-button current issues?
 
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George Galloway was sacked from Talk Radio for saying that there would be no Israel flag on a football cup when Tottenham lost.



You are all missing the point.
These days it depends on the characteristics of the speaker and the subject.

Women are allowed to be misandrogynous, black people are allowed to be racist, etc.
Think of it as getting their own back for the past if you want - but it is allowed or at least accepted.



P.S. Brand IS a comedienne.
Actresses who want to be called actors should also be called men and addressed as he.

The English speaking world (America) is going mad.
 
What makes no difference? I know what context means, I just can't figure out what context you're actually referring to. The fact that it was meant as a joke? The fact that it was said by a professional comedian? The fact that it was on the BBC? The fact that it was said during a period when acid-attacks and political division are hot-button current issues?
She is a comedian, it was said in jest, on a comedy show. This is the context. This is important.

She ISN'T a right-wing person, she is a comedian doing her job. She didn't incite violence, she said she wouldn't do it and that it was just her fantasy and she said she was joking!

The BBC has nothing to do with it imo. And yes, it was said during a period of acid-attacks and political division are hot, but I would suspect she wouldn't have said it at all had they not been. Why? Because it would've been out of context!

I remember doing a double-take when I heard that comment first broadcast while I was making my tea, as it was unusually bad taste for Radio 4 (or politically-correct FM as I like to call it). The trouble is the double-standard currently pervasive in the media (and social media) class. If a right-wing personality had made the same joke it would be all over the Guardian front page before you can say "twitter storm". Anna Soubry would be calling for new legistlation; Owen Jones would be writing about the rise of incitement to populist Nazi street violence; David Lammy would be tweeting furiously about how it mocks the horrific suffering of actual acid-attack victims; Sadiq Kahn would make a little video about how all Londoner's agree it won't divide them; police cars would have extra H8-speech stickers on standby.

But when it's celebrated feminist joe Brand, suddenly the same people are uncharacteristically quiet. "It's just a joke bro, what's your problem Nigel I thought you were pro free speech, it's not incitement if you're on the right side, you're making a fuss about nothing, lol what a censorious stick in the mud!"
PS, I do not think this whole shebang has been quiet in Jo Brands favour. She's being punished by the press and all the social media. Does it really matter who's doing the punishing?

Whatever you say Bodd.
 
She is a comedian, it was said in jest, on a comedy show. This is the context. This is important.
And my point was if the same comment had been made by the 'wrong' (e.g. white, male, right wing) comedian the relatively relaxed reaction of the media, twitter, parliament and BBC would have been the polar opposite.

She ISN'T a right-wing person, she is a comedian doing her job.
I assume you meant to say left, and it would be disingenuous. Brand is avowedly (notoriously, even) politically left-wing and has built vast portions of her material and public personality on promulgating left-wing issues, which is why the London elite have been so forgiving of her on this.

She didn't incite violence, she said she wouldn't do it
Well done, but if Jim Davidson or Nigel farage had said it the papers would be accusing him of incitement, or at least of encouraging or enabling incitement. I suspect you didn't read my post at all.
 
And my point was if the same comment had been made by the 'wrong' (e.g. white, male, right wing) comedian the relatively relaxed reaction of the media, twitter, parliament and BBC would have been the polar opposite.


I assume you meant to say left, and it would be disingenuous. Brand is avowedly (notoriously, even) politically left-wing and has built vast portions of her material and public personality on promulgating left-wing issues, which is why the London elite have been so forgiving of her on this.


Well done, but if Jim Davidson or Nigel farage had said it the papers would be accusing him of incitement, or at least of encouraging or enabling incitement. I suspect you didn't read my post at all.
1, IF. But it wasn't, so it's not the same context.

2, No, I meant what I said. She isn't right-wing.

3, I already said that if Jim said it on a comedy show, as a joke then he was in the same context as Jo, they are both comedians. (In fact, had Jim said it people wouldn't be surprised with his back catalogue of jokes). If Nige had said it it would be a completely different context. He's not a comedian, he has a background which is dodgy and has said many dodgy things before. So it's chalk and cheese to compare the two.

Context is everything. We've become a nation of virtue signallers without looking at the who, why and what's it about.
 
So it's chalk and cheese to compare the two.
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Nope.

Now answer my question please....


No. But he had a comedy based show on 5 live every Saturday morning. Lots of jokes lots of laughter.
Needed writing and needed executing

Stop being bossy
 
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