double socket amps

Thanks JohnW2
You're welcome.

I perhaps should have added that, due to some not necessarily totally rational aspects of (non-mandatory guidance in) the regulations, there is a potential problem when the socket(s) are supplied as an 'unfused spur' from a ring circuit. In that situation, the (guidance in the) regulations say that one can have one (single OR double) socket supplied by the spur, but (by implication) not two singles.

Kind Regards, John
 
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certainly in a utility room where a tumble dryer is going to be plugged in, this forum likes to recommend fitting single sockets.

It's rare to do that in a living room
 
certainly in a utility room where a tumble dryer is going to be plugged in, this forum likes to recommend fitting single sockets.
I don't think you can/should speak quite so 'generally' - a few people who participate in this forum might recommend that, but I imagine that a lot of those here don't do and/or 'recommend' it.

Kind Regards, John
 
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Sorry John. Do you not recommend that then?
Never having personally experienced any problem with two 'utility room items' plugged into a double socket, I don't really have any personal reason to recommend it - but, as I said, for anyone with potential concerns, it's certainly the 'safest' way to do it.

Kind Regards, John
 
Never having personally experienced any problem with two 'utility room items' plugged into a double socket, I don't really have any personal reason to recommend it - but, as I said, for anyone with potential concerns, it's certainly the 'safest' way to do it.

Kind Regards, John
Double socket-outlets should not be misused in this way.
 
Double socket-outlets should not be misused in this way.
Unless and until one can establish the actual 'rating' of a double socket, one cannot know whether or not the use in question represents 'misuse'.

As I wrote earlier, the fact that a Standard imposes a certain minimum requirement does not in any way mean that a particular product which complies with Standard does not exceed the requirements of that Standard.

Do you really believe that an MK double socket is only 'rated' for a total of 13A (through both plugs plugged into it)?

Kind Regards, John
 
A double socket-outlet is rated for 20A and not any more.
Nonsense. You are merely quoting the minimum requirement of BS1363. As I said, any individual socket can be manufactured to whatever 'rating' the manufacturer choses (provided it can pass the test with 14A+6A). - and, as I also said, only the individual manufacturer can tell you what the 'rating' of their product is.

As I've also written, MK are very clear that their double sockets are 'rated' for "13A per socket outlet". Even the MK Tech Support people cannot tell me with certainty what they mean by "socket outlet". However, there are only two possibilities - one would mean that their double socket is rated at 2 x 13A total (i.e. 26A total) and the other that it was rated at just 13A total (which seems unlikely, given that BS1363 requires it to be able to cope with at least 14A+6A). A 20A 'rating' is not a possibility on the basis of what they have written.

Kind Regards, John
 
From MK catalogue:

Either the total amperage for the two is 13A - clearly unreasonable, or, as they both have shutters, each is 13A.

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Anything other than 13A each would clearly be deceiving the general public.
 
From MK catalogue:

Either the total amperage for the two is 13A - clearly unreasonable, or, as they both have shutters, each is 13A.

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Anything other than 13A each would clearly be deceiving the general public.
Just to stir things up(!), is it possible that the manufacturer was referring to the sockets as '13A sockets' inasmuch as they are square-pin sockets as opposed to earlier 15A and 5A round pin sockets?
 
Nonsense. You are merely quoting the minimum requirement of BS1363. As I said, any individual socket can be manufactured to whatever 'rating' the manufacturer choses (provided it can pass the test with 14A+6A). - and, as I also said, only the individual manufacturer can tell you what the 'rating' of their product is.

As I've also written, MK are very clear that their double sockets are 'rated' for "13A per socket outlet". Even the MK Tech Support people cannot tell me with certainty what they mean by "socket outlet". However, there are only two possibilities - one would mean that their double socket is rated at 2 x 13A total (i.e. 26A total) and the other that it was rated at just 13A total (which seems unlikely, given that BS1363 requires it to be able to cope with at least 14A+6A). A 20A 'rating' is not a possibility on the basis of what they have written.

Kind Regards, John
Nonsense from you. Read this:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw327ABdYfgJWezdekFCEouQ&cshid=1560816114440
 

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