Made me chuckle - Tory PM hopefuls promising to right wrongs ...

Well I don't give a monkeys tit that you don't give a monkeys.

I do appreciate you correcting my ignorance, you obnoxious ****.
Aww bless...

Dyslexic Bodd is well and truly dead...

Now we just have ignorant (spell checked) nasty version to make fun of (y)
 
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Aww bless...

Dyslexic Bodd is well and truly dead...

Now we just have ignorant (spell checked) nasty version to make fun of (y)


He he he he he he.
 
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I wasn't overly impressed with the shootout last night. Seemed a bit daft that those asking the questions were fairly obviously not conservative voters. It would be as pointless as me asking Jeremy Corbyn how he plans to reduce my excessive tax bill.
 
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So I take it that your not voting Labour again after they trounced this country last time they were in

You might be correct, I may not be voting labour at the next election. I might vote lib dem - undecided at present.

But the country was in a much better state in 2010 than it is now - we had a better NHS, more police and less crime, fewer failing schools. The UK had sustained economic growth between 1997 and 2008 - the crash was a global one, and being part of a global economy, we were affected along with everybody else in the world. And as we all now know, the American housing policy was the main cause of this - still want to do business with Trump instead of the EU?

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/uk-growth-and-productivity-1997-to-2008/

Funny really, because at the time, the Tories were claiming that the growth was down to the previous Tory government. Now the spin doctors have made everybody think the labour years were bad, and that they failed.

You really should check the economic history books and not the right wing propaganda.

Some facts and opinions (from that link):

  • The UK’s growth of GDP per capita – 1.42% a year between 1997 and 2010 – was better than in any of the other “G6” countries: Germany (1.26%), the US (1.22%), France (1.04%), Japan (0.52%) and Italy (0.22%).
  • During the past 30 years, the UK has had a faster catch-up of GDP per capita with the US under Labour than under the Conservatives
  • the biggest contributors to productivity increases were the business services and distribution sectors, and they were generated through the increased importance of skills and new technologies
  • policies of the Labour government drove some of the productivity improvement. In particular, the strengthening of competition policy, the support for innovation, the expansion of university education and better regulation in telecoms and elsewhere played a positive role.

So, the evidence shows that labour actually did a great job for the economy, and conversely, the Tories austerity measures are holding back economic growth, and combine that with Brexit, we're pretty screwed really.

The full report http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/special/cepsp24.pdf
 
You might be correct, I may not be voting labour at the next election. I might vote lib dem - undecided at present.

But the country was in a much better state in 2010 than it is now - we had a better NHS, more police and less crime, fewer failing schools. The UK had sustained economic growth between 1997 and 2008 - the crash was a global one, and being part of a global economy, we were affected along with everybody else in the world. And as we all now know, the American housing policy was the main cause of this - still want to do business with Trump instead of the EU?

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/uk-growth-and-productivity-1997-to-2008/

Funny really, because at the time, the Tories were claiming that the growth was down to the previous Tory government. Now the spin doctors have made everybody think the labour years were bad, and that they failed.

You really should check the economic history books and not the right wing propaganda.

Some facts and opinions (from that link):

  • The UK’s growth of GDP per capita – 1.42% a year between 1997 and 2010 – was better than in any of the other “G6” countries: Germany (1.26%), the US (1.22%), France (1.04%), Japan (0.52%) and Italy (0.22%).
  • During the past 30 years, the UK has had a faster catch-up of GDP per capita with the US under Labour than under the Conservatives
  • the biggest contributors to productivity increases were the business services and distribution sectors, and they were generated through the increased importance of skills and new technologies
  • policies of the Labour government drove some of the productivity improvement. In particular, the strengthening of competition policy, the support for innovation, the expansion of university education and better regulation in telecoms and elsewhere played a positive role.

So, the evidence shows that labour actually did a great job for the economy, and conversely, the Tories austerity measures are holding back economic growth, and combine that with Brexit, we're pretty screwed really.

The full report http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/special/cepsp24.pdf


Tony Blair started the rott. The Torys have done nothing to correct the mess labour left us in.

I see only one vote for those of you who want remain. Who knows given a chance the libs may make something of this country again.
 
I have to disagree. The country was doing really well under labour - the global economic crisis screwed things up, then we got the Tories, who made everything much worse for the working classes.

Of course, labour today is different to Blair's labour, but I do feel that some areas would benefit from nationalisation. I don't think the NHS will last another decade under Tory rule, it'll be dismantled and sold off to investors. What doesn't work will be left to fail (that is already happening in many wards in many hospitals).

Maybe the lib dems can save us, but I am not sure enough people will really support them in an election - Tories will probably win again.
 
Tony Blair started the rott. The Torys have done nothing to correct the mess labour left us in.

I see only one vote for those of you who want remain. Who knows given a chance the libs may make something of this country again.

What was the rot, economy? debt? name something.
 
I have to disagree. The country was doing really well under labour - the global economic crisis screwed things up, then we got the Tories, who made everything much worse for the working classes.

What was the rot, economy? debt? name something.


If Labour had done such a Grand job, why where they voted out.

Good governments don't loose.
 
If Labour had done such a Grand job, why where they voted out.

Good governments don't loose.

The global crash - the right wing press were able to put the blame on labour just before the election. It was bad timing really.
 
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f Labour had done such a Grand job, why where they voted out

Thats British politics for you.

We swing between 2 parties, no party ever lasts more than 3 terms cos they get complacent and the public get bored.

It creates a great strategy of short termism.

It allows poluticians to invest by borrowing so future governments have to suffer the costs.

PFIs for example, student loans...... both sides do it.
 

Yeah, good point. Glad the Tories fixed that problem. Oh, hang on ..

The key measure (public sector net debt) rose from £960 billion in April 2010, just before the coalition government was elected, to £1.5 trillion five years later. This means the debt has increased by just over 50%, not doubled.
https://fullfact.org/economy/has-uks-debt-doubled/


I guess people will now say, Labour started the debt, it's their fault Tories made it worse...

but it fell from 1997 to 2008 - and was rising white the Tories were in power mid 1990s.

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Trounced the country?

I take it that you haven't noticed that the tories since labour were last in power have borrowed more than all governments in history put together, and doubled the national debt?

Or that they have instigated a permanent austerity policy?

Not to mention the tragedy of Brexit !

The national debt hmm .....this is a sobering documentary .....I believe the public sector pension pension costs make a showing .....

 
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