Moving home, moving Hive...

phmode · 8 Jul 2019

big-all. Good point. Solicitor says it is like light fittings and mains sockets with charger outlets, as long as you leave 'a' light fitting and 'a' socket, it doesn't have to be the same as the one they saw when they viewed. It's the function that matters, not the form. And the Hub belongs to me.

bernardgreen. It's a moot point and a personal choice. No problems with three different installations in 3 houses so far in the last couple of years. I could live off-grid and knit my own yoghurt but life would be a sadder thing by far. I live a totally irregular lifestyle so never use a schedule to heat the water or house, but the ability to set the heating when I'm getting off the plane and have it toasty warm as I step through the door on a bitter winter's evening is just a luxury I refuse to live without.

DursleyDavid. Leaving the Hive heating controller behind would not bother me. Unfortunately the Drayton system won't turn my outside lights on at dusk and off at midnight'ish when I'm away and nor will it monitor my door sensors and internal movement sensors and tell me if I've got an intruder when I'm not there. There are ever more 'smart home' systems hitting the market, seemingly every day, from ones for tech geeks to ones who just wanna have the latest conveniences, Hive is what Iv'e got.

Haven't even exchanged contracts yet so I'll report back once I've done the move and the swap.

petit_pablo · 8 Jul 2019

Haven't read all the replies but if you wish to remove hive and take it with you it will work fine at the new property. In all honesty its probably more of a PIA to just take the hub as you then have to put the existing hive controller and receiver into standalone mode for the new owners then at the new house youll have the fun of adding a new stat and receiver onto your account as the hub will be looking for the old stat etc.

dilalio · 8 Jul 2019

phmode said:
I could live off-grid and knit my own yoghurt

Bernard's admin on THAT forum

bernardgreen · 8 Jul 2019

phmode said:
but the ability to set the heating when I'm getting off the plane and have it toasty warm as I step through the door on a bitter winter's evening is just a luxury I refuse to live without.

That was possible long before the internet was invented. Phone home, after a few rings the answer-phone takes the call and a line monitor is connected to the line..

Dial an acess code ( PIN ) and a two digit instruction code.

The line monitor checked the PIN, decoded the instruction and caused the necessary actions to happen. If the phone used was a rotary dial then it was necessary to use a TouchTone pad to generate the DTMF tones for the PIN and instruction code.

mrStat · 8 Jul 2019

bernardgreen said:
That was possible long before the internet was invented. Phone home, after a few rings the answer-phone takes the call and a line monitor is connected to the line..

Dial an acess code ( PIN ) and a two digit instruction code.

The line monitor checked the PIN, decoded the instruction and caused the necessary actions to happen. If the phone used was a rotary dial then it was necessary to use a TouchTone pad to generate the DTMF tones for the PIN and instruction code.

Why can I just hear the name Kevin Mitnick when you describe this.

nickso · 9 Jul 2019

big-all said:
as an aside
if you are selling the house and the new buyers where aware off a permenant system [affixed or secure to the house structure rather than just plugged in]that subsiquentley you have removed and it forms part off the sales contract they are within there rights to challenge its removal

No they're not. Most missives will simply state the heating has to be working, it doesn't even have to be safe, AR will do.

He could leave a light switch to turn on the CH and HW and unless they have specifically said they wanted the Hive as fitted there's no comeback at all.

ianmcd · 10 Jul 2019

Must be different, up here say the description in your for sale documentation said , Heating is by a gas xxxxx boiler controlled by internet controlled nest system, then you can not remove anything and replace it with anything else

nickso · 10 Jul 2019

ianmcd said:
Must be different, up here say the description in your for sale documentation said , Heating is by a gas xxxxx boiler controlled by internet controlled nest system, then you can not remove anything and replace it with anything else

I'm in Scotland.

Most missives will not include any specifics and your solicitor would be a fool to do so.

ianmcd · 10 Jul 2019

nickso said:
I'm in Scotland.

Most missives will not include any specifics and your solicitor would be a fool to do so.

what has a solicitor got to do with it ? it is how your estate agent advertises your property ,

imiller9 · 10 Jul 2019

ianmcd said:
Sorry no it wont work, you will need a new hub, all the rest will be OK though, crazy yes but unfortunately that is how it is

I moved and took my hive with me and it all worked

mrStat · 10 Jul 2019

phmode · 11 Jul 2019

Well, what a to-do!

The prospective buyer threw a hissy fit and withdrew her offer on Monday when she discovered the office 'furniture' and the bedroom 'furniture', (all free standing, although screwed to the wall for safety's sake) are not included in the sale. What, she wants my knicker drawers and my filing system now?

The estate agent (who don't even give details of what is and what is not being sold in the advertising blurb (in England) these days and rely on the inventory documentaion to do that work for them) poured oil on burning waters but eventually she saw sense and is coming round tomorrow so she can remind herself which house she is buying.

Needless to say, the CH/HW system is now controlled by ~~flashing a couple of bare wires together~~ the original roomstat and programmer and of the Hive there is ne're a trace.

Thanks again for all the replies guys, really appreciated. Brian

nickso · 16 Jul 2019

ianmcd said:
what has a solicitor got to do with it ? it is how your estate agent advertises your property ,

You know, the solicitor that actually conveys the sale of your house, checks it's all legal and sends the paperwork back and forth between the two parties that details the legal sale of the property, including what is and isn't covered in the event of a problem arising. That solicitor.

You call it an estate agent if you want, I call it a conveyancing solicitor.

ianmcd · 16 Jul 2019

nickso said:
You know, the solicitor that actually conveys the sale of your house, checks it's all legal and sends the paperwork back and forth between the two parties that details the legal sale of the property, including what is and isn't covered in the event of a problem arising. That solicitor.

You call it an estate agent if you want, I call it a conveyancing solicitor.

you can call it anything you like , doesnt make you correct, that will be the "conveyancing solicitor" that has never seen anything to do with the property that is being sold, who has absolutely no clue what any kind of heating control would look like if it copied and pasted his or hers arse

nickso · 16 Jul 2019

ianmcd said:
you can call it anything you like , doesnt make you correct, that will be the "conveyancing solicitor" that has never seen anything to do with the property that is being sold, who has absolutely no clue what any kind of heating control would look like if it copied and pasted his or hers arse

And an "estate agent" would? The fookin surveyors don't even have a clue so how you think any desk jockey does I don't know.

The conveyancing solicitor and and the "estate agent" are often the same thing or at least working for the same firm. Mine was one woman, sold and bought my houses last year, including writing the sale advert.

My point was the legal mumbo jumbo in the documents telling you what you are and are not entitled to in the event of there being a problem with the purchase will not mention controls of any kind, unless it was specifically requested to do so by the purchasing solicitor. Even then the selling solicitor is likely to tell them to do one. They want a smooth transition so they can get paid like anyone else and loads of clauses about crappy controls are not going to be there to muddy the waters.

You seem a smart lad Ian, not sure why this is taking a while to sink in

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