Of course there is only one regulation in Part H as Follows -"Surface water must not be discharged into a foul drain or sewer." and this is so that the sewers don't get overloaded during heavy rainfall. Rain water is completely harmless as we all know and flows into road drains and the like all the time. Get it right Leofric before criticising other folk.A very public spirited citizen
If you leave your address it can be reported to your local council.
Drain pipes blocked but not that simple !
- Thread starter Brian Lacey
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Discharge of rain water onto the highway ( includes pavements ) is not permitted under Part H ( as a local resident found when they started discharging their roof water to the highway )
https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/15/drains_and_sewers/2 states
Surface water drainage carries rainwater (and melted snow and ice) from hard surfaces. The above-ground system of gutters and rainwater pipes is referred to as roof drainage; the underground pipework is referred to as surface water drains and surface water sewers.
Surface water from hardstandings must not be allowed to run onto the highway, where it could lead to accidents or cause a nuisance.
Where it is impractical to drain onto pervious ground or use a pervious paving, it is preferable to keep the extra surface water on site, in order to avoid increasing flood risk elsewhere. This can be achieved by using a soakaway or some other way of allowing it to soak into the ground (referred to as infiltration).
https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/15/drains_and_sewers/2 states
Surface water drainage carries rainwater (and melted snow and ice) from hard surfaces. The above-ground system of gutters and rainwater pipes is referred to as roof drainage; the underground pipework is referred to as surface water drains and surface water sewers.
Surface water from hardstandings must not be allowed to run onto the highway, where it could lead to accidents or cause a nuisance.
Where it is impractical to drain onto pervious ground or use a pervious paving, it is preferable to keep the extra surface water on site, in order to avoid increasing flood risk elsewhere. This can be achieved by using a soakaway or some other way of allowing it to soak into the ground (referred to as infiltration).
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Leofric
Work in building design including drainage proposals for about 40 years before you a) accuse me of getting something wrong Eccles and b) start quoting from only part of an Approved Document ,which shows you don't know what you are doing with drainage. Anyway, I think bernard green has put you right on rainwater disposal.
Regs only apply to new work, they cannot be used retrospectively on existing situations. Many older Victorian Homes have the rainwater, from the front at least, directed out to the pavement/highway, and the rest into a combined sewer. Round here, Northamptonshire County Council have cleverly resurfaced a lot of roads in some of these older streets, built the level up, and blocked the outlets from the original cast pipework from the downpipes running under the pavement. Some have been replaced, elsewhere residents have taken their own action and cut the downpipes above the footpath, fitting a shoe to direct the water away from the buildings.
With new build situations, the drainage hierarchy needs to be applied, with the first option a soakaway. If this is not practical, then a surface water sewer, and if that is also ruled out, then a foul/combined sewer can be used but only as a last resort.
With new build situations, the drainage hierarchy needs to be applied, with the first option a soakaway. If this is not practical, then a surface water sewer, and if that is also ruled out, then a foul/combined sewer can be used but only as a last resort.
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Leofric
- but surely if you are altering the method of rainwater disposal and creating a new 'system' by discharging water so it runs along a footpath and out on to the highway it isn't an 'existing situation'
You are altering the path of the water, not the method of disposal. Some existing downpipes are being directed to the kerb by use of a dished or ribbed concrete channel where pavement works are being carried out, otherwise it is left.
NCC are replacing pipework under the pavements if asked, but seem to be turning a blind eye to any alterations.
NCC are replacing pipework under the pavements if asked, but seem to be turning a blind eye to any alterations.
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Leofric
don't quite follow your logic on this , but I think you are referring to some existing arrangement in Northampton ,not redirecting rainwater from going into a drain and possibly a soakaway to running along a footpath on to the road which I was referring to originally , which must be altering the method of disposal
The incident I am aware of was the roof of a stable block without a gutter. Rain water dripped from the roof onto road side grass verge.
The building was converted and to remove a damp problem caused by saturated grass verge a gutter was attached with down pipes delivering rain water to the highway.
The owner was instructed to cease disposing of rain water onto the highway.
In that situation, whilst the water may have run off the roof along it's length onto the verge since the place was built, I would assume the addition of a gutter brought the situation under the description of 'New work'.
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