Just to clarify it was Western Power removing the teleswitch that caused the issues!
Removing teleswitch
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Did they charge you remove the teleswitch? So in your case it should have been the energy supplier that should have removed it?
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I have a similar tariff from Scottish, comes to an end soon thoughIndeed, it usually does. I would have said 'always', but ....
... as I have mentioned before, whether due to a mistake on their part or what, the E7 tariff I currently have (with ESB) has a day-rate which is actually slightly lower than their corresponding best 'standard' (single rate) tariff - so the E7 is (for the first time in my life) really a "can't lose" situation!
As for general advice, with virtually any other supplier (and quite possibly ESB when they don't make mistakes!), one has to use at least ~35% of one''s consumption at cheap (night) rate for E7 to work out cheaper than a standard single-rate tariff - something which most people (other than me) will not achieve unless they have storage heaters.
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Another thought, if your electrician removed the tele switch how would the meter react to losing the changeover signal?
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No as they moved the meter whilst installing a new supply. But to make it simple they just didn’t move the teleswitch and binned it
It will just stay on the default daytime rate permanently.
Mine fortunately still has about 18 months to run (it was a 2-year deal).
I initially thought that it was a bit crazy (or a mistake) from their point-of-view. However, on reflection, if they really want to encourage a shift to more night-time usage, then it is probably an obvious the way to go - with such a tariff, if people used 100% of their electricity during the daytime, the cost would be very much the same (fractionally lower) than with a single-rate tariff, but at least some customers would realise that the more usage they could shift to night-time, the lower would their bills become.
... and I presume that, quite apart from 'saving the planet' (and reducing customers' bills), it's probably in the supplier's interest to encourage as much 'off-peak' usage as they can, since they are probably/presumably paying less to the generators for it?
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As has been said, it would seem more appropriate (and maybe 'safer') to contact the supplier (i.e. Shell in this case) rather than the DNO.
If the supplier thinks that the request should go to the DNO, they will quickly say so - but, by going to the supplier first, one would at least avoid any arguments about the DNO having "interferred with the supplier's (or meter operators') equipment"!
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Hi John,
I've had a look at the bill, it does have a day and night rate. Is this what they call Economy 7?
As I'm leaving my current supplier, will it therefore be appropriate to contact the DNO instead? Or perhaps request it from the new supplier?
I'm guessing my current supplier will be less inclined in fulfilling my request if I'm leaving them!
Yes, E7 - and that's what it says on your meter.
No. I would suggest that it's the supplier (in your case, presumably the new one) that you should speak to first. Unless you come across a very unusual E7 tariff like mine and crystal balls' then, since you don't have storage heaters, it's very likely that it is to your financial disadvantage to have an E7 tariff - I would therefore suggest that you should seriously consider signing up for a standard (single-rate) tariff with your new supplier - in which case they will almost certainly change your meter and remove the teleswitch, without your even having to ask them!
As above, I think it's very likely that you should be asking your new supplier for a non-E7 tariff (as a result of which the equipment changes/removals will probably happen automatically). When is the change of suppliers going to happen?
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Why does he "need" to fit an isolator switch? There's already one built into the meter.
There is. However, it sounds as if the OP should be asking his (probably his new) supplier for a single-rate tariff - in which case, unnecessary though it is, as I've said, it seems that most suppliers would then change the meter - and, from what I've seen of what is being fitted these days, it's probably unlikely that they would install a replacement meter which has a built-in isolator.
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I know EDF have said recently that they will apply a single rate charge , even if the meter is a E7 without any need to change the meter , they simply charge the standard rate to all the meter readings.
I have been involved in a friend who has recently replaced all the storage night heaters with normal heaters from Fischer heating, so she is now looking at the best electric supply.
So your new supplier may not have to change the meter, although they probably will want to install a smart meter
I have been involved in a friend who has recently replaced all the storage night heaters with normal heaters from Fischer heating, so she is now looking at the best electric supply.
So your new supplier may not have to change the meter, although they probably will want to install a smart meter
AFAIK that's been standard practice for years (for ever?)
they know the meter has two registers, so they they take both readings, calculate both usages, and add them together to find your total usage.
There used to be cases where they were only given, and only recorded, usage from one register, which could lead to long term underbilling. This should not happen now, even if you change suppliers.
they know the meter has two registers, so they they take both readings, calculate both usages, and add them together to find your total usage.
There used to be cases where they were only given, and only recorded, usage from one register, which could lead to long term underbilling. This should not happen now, even if you change suppliers.
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