An interesting read about how the Tories manipulate the media

Notch7 · 23 Oct 2019

in PMQs today Johnson lied about customs checks:

he said 'no checks between Northern Ireland and GB [Great Britain]'

but the truth is: "The exit summary declarations will be required in terms of NI to GB."

I wonder what festers answer to this will be
(dont tell me it will be 'everybody lies')

EFLImpudence · 23 Oct 2019

festive said:
Oh dear the kid spam if rife this week, is it half term this week?

Perhaps you had better tell us what we may post.

I'm still trying to work out your previous posts.

Have I got this right?
You agree that the media prints lies and politicians tell lies. I.e. things that are not true. E.g. brexit, even no deal, is good for the UK.
You agree that many people are manipulated by the media not telling the truth and these people might have come to believe something that is not true because they did not know they were lies. Yet this does not affect the will of the people.
You, though, and the others of your fab five, do not mind this lying, are not taken in by this lying and are intelligent enough to work things out for yourself.

So, by your own intelligent reasoning, you have come to a conclusion which is the same as the misled people. E.g. brexit, even no deal, is good for the UK.
Yet, in your case, because you have worked out this for yourself, you are telling the truth and believe correctly that brexit, even no deal, is good for the UK.
Is that it?

Notch7 · 23 Oct 2019

Brexit strategy:

1. Decide on plan
2. Conduct an economic analysis
3. Immediately dismiss the horrifying results as Remainer sabotage
4. Proceed anyway

durhamplumber · 23 Oct 2019

Notch7 said:
Brexit strategy:

1. Decide on plan
2. Conduct an economic analysis
3. Immediately dismiss the horrifying results as Remainer sabotage
4. Proceed anyway

5...Notchy be bitter forever.No more ref...No EU...no art 50 dropped....oh dear..

transam · 23 Oct 2019

I do not buy tabloid news papers

havent done for years

may read one if some one else leaves it laying around while I am waiting in the chippy

occasionally buy the "i"

fillyboy · 23 Oct 2019

EFLImpudence said:
It's not really the Tories manipulating the media as such, is it?

It is the Tory media manipulating the gullible public by stating lies as fact - just like Fox News in the U.S.

Saddam Hussein - weapons of mass destruction. Nuff said. They're all at it, and always have been.

fillyboy · 23 Oct 2019

transam said:
occasionally buy the "i"

So it's you then.

EFLImpudence · 24 Oct 2019

fillyboy said:
Saddam Hussein - weapons of mass destruction. Nuff said. They're all at it, and always have been.

Yes, we know that - but you can't complain about it and still agree with what they say and support them.

noseall · 24 Oct 2019

fillyboy said:
They're all at it

When do you reckon the penny will drop with you lot?

Notch7 · 24 Oct 2019

fillyboy said:
Saddam Hussein - weapons of mass destruction. Nuff said. They're all at it, and always have been.

So why do you believe the Brexit lies then?

festive · 24 Oct 2019

EFLImpudence said:
Perhaps you had better tell us what we may post.

I'm still trying to work out your previous posts.

Have I got this right?
You agree that the media prints lies and politicians tell lies. I.e. things that are not true. E.g. brexit, even no deal, is good for the UK.
You agree that many people are manipulated by the media not telling the truth and these people might have come to believe something that is not true because they did not know they were lies. Yet this does not affect the will of the people.
You, though, and the others of your fab five, do not mind this lying, are not taken in by this lying and are intelligent enough to work things out for yourself.

So, by your own intelligent reasoning, you have come to a conclusion which is the same as the misled people. E.g. brexit, even no deal, is good for the UK.
Yet, in your case, because you have worked out this for yourself, you are telling the truth and believe correctly that brexit, even no deal, is good for the UK.
Is that it?

No and there you have it, somehow feeding that through your own inbuilt interpreter has resulted in a skewed output, see what you did there? You mixed in your assumptions with your interpretations and get Xy not X. Its highlights how we all see things in a different light.
Now i refer you back to my post, fab5(or so) are some of the regular posters on here proclaiming to know better than everyone else, getting warmer? They usually make juvenile comments about anyone being extreme right wing etc.

Anyway ill stop there not needing to spoon feed mr Logic have a rerun seewhat you get.

festive · 24 Oct 2019

Now back to the topic, talking of how the Tories manipulate the media... I am a follower of King Boris(my hero and the fountain of truth) on Facebook. Now ive noticed a significant change in his followers, obviously alot of cleaning up going on from more unpleasant comments, but what's more interesting is the 'Congratulations' comments from some of his follower.s For example Boris will post an update on progress which will be followed up by many with the response 'Congratulations' they just don't seem appropriate, i myself checked some of the profiles to see if they 'seem' real and not some kind of bot. Thing is now people are posting fumbling robot animated gifs under alot of these responses, of course insinuating these accounts are bot or fake

and it does look a bit like that.
But.. double bluff it could be fake accounts created by someone anti Tory who is attempting to put off real followers by the realisation Boris and his entourage of followers are all fakE! Hmm got me thinking now.

So there you have it, possibly another example of manipulation and indeed in this instance Tory or is it?

sodthisforfun · 24 Oct 2019

festive said:
No and there you have it, somehow feeding that through your own inbuilt interpreter has resulted in a skewed output, see what you did there? You mixed in your assumptions with your interpretations and get Xy not X. Its highlights how we all see things in a different light.
Now i refer you back to my post, fab5(or so) are some of the regular posters on here proclaiming to know better than everyone else, getting warmer? They usually make juvenile comments about anyone being extreme right wing etc.

Anyway ill stop there not needing to spoon feed mr Logic have a rerun seewhat you get.

None of that really address what EFL was talking about?

JP_ · 24 Oct 2019

festive said:
Oh dear the kid spam is rife this week, is it half term?

Not in Essex.

sodthisforfun · 24 Oct 2019

festive said:
Now back to the topic, talking of how the Tories manipulate the media... I am a follower of King Boris(my hero and the fountain of truth) on Facebook. Now ive noticed a significant change in his followers, obviously alot of cleaning up going on from more unpleasant comments, but what's more interesting is the 'Congratulations' comments from some of his follower.s For example Boris will post an update on progress which will be followed up by many with the response 'Congratulations' they just don't seem appropriate, i myself checked some of the profiles to see if they 'seem' real and not some kind of bot. Thing is now people are posting fumbling robot animated gifs under alot of these responses, of course insinuating these accounts are bot or fake and it does look a bit like that.
But.. double bluff it could be fake accounts created by someone anti Tory who is attempting to put off real followers by the realisation Boris and his entourage of followers are all fakE! Hmm got me thinking now.

So there you have it, possibly another example of manipulation and indeed in this instance Tory or is it?

I just looked at Boris on facebook, did a search. I counted 20 'Boris Johnsons' with his face, all proclaiming to be him. So who are you following exactly? Which fake account?!

An interesting read about how the Tories manipulate the media

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