Need a new fire, what type though...?

Colin Brenton · 6 Dec 2019

Hi,

With a recent house purchase, I have inherited an old, knackered, gas fire "Cannon Coalridge category 1N fire (GC# 3213258)".

I am having major work done on the house, and, as part of this, I am having this fire replaced.

Basically, I need to know if this is a type 1, type 2, balanced flue... etc etc fire/chimney, so I can buy a suitable replacement fire, can anyone advise please?

I'm (obviously!) not doing the job myself, I just need to know what to order for my gas engineer to fit.

Thanks,
Colin

45yearsagasman · 7 Dec 2019

A wider picture of the fire would help, but by the GC No it may well be an open flued fire fitted in a fire opening.

ianmcd · 7 Dec 2019

as far as I remember the Canon Coalridge was a balanced flue gas fire , is there a terminal on an outside wall behind the fire ?

lightning · 7 Dec 2019

Comes in both forms B/f and O/F

Colin Brenton · 7 Dec 2019

Thanks for the replies, please find some answers below;

@45yearsagasman no probs, I'll take some wider pictures on Monday and add them here.

@ianmcd, no, there's no wall mounted terminal, it is connected to the chimney that leads to the roof.

Thanks to everyone who has responded, but I'm none the wiser, not knowing a lot of the terms being used... B/F (balanced flue I would guess), O/F (??) etc.

I think for now I'll get some more pictures and add them to the tread.

Will this do the job?

https://www.flames.co.uk/fireplace-...ERYeQHAdUDKx5DtJXptVJPWh-OKcWurBoCvzkQAvD_BwE

This is supplied with either a "Class 1" or "Class 2 fire", so is either suitable? And which one should I order?

Thanks again,
Colin

Madrab · 7 Dec 2019

You would be better to have your gas engineer in to have a look, he should be able to tell you pretty quickly what you need. He may also test the chimney.

Alternatively it would be advised to have a chimney specialist in to check/sweep and smoke test it. If it's an old Class 1 then the mortar can go porous and would need to be lined and terminal'd/sealed top and bottom properly to ensure it's safe.

Too much to take a chance with IMO as an open flue'd LFE can kill quite easily.

DP · 8 Dec 2019

Fire selection should not just be a visual thing as lot of these inset fires are quite inefficient. When selecting a fire, look at the heat input and the heat output. 7kW input and 3.5kw output will give you a fire that is 50% efficient.
Aim for 80%. Outset fires are more efficient, not fashionable, but wipe the slate when compared to fire in your selection

Colin Brenton · 10 Dec 2019

Hi, please find below a couple of pictures of the fire as requested.

One thing I did notice is that it is not fixed to the wall in any way, and can be lifted away from the wall of the fire-place, outwards into the room...!

Does the rectangular bit at the back look like a balanced flue - I'm not sure.

Thanks,
Colin

45yearsagasman · 11 Dec 2019

That's an open flued appliance fitted into what appears to be old fire opening. There will be a chimney above it outside on the roof. Only an inspection by a RGI will confirm the flue is ok for a new fire.

Colin Brenton · 11 Dec 2019

Thanks, yes, I'm going to get my RGI to have a look before buying anything - I may end up with a new electric fire in the end... haha.

It's a surprise to see it like that though, I would have assumed that the flue should all have been sealed.

I'll let you know what the outcome is - thanks everyone for the help.

Cheers,
Colin

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